Sarah Palin's VP Selection Is A Trojan Horse, page 2
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reply posted on 2-9-2008 @ 01:50 PM by jsobecky
reply to post by The Vagabond



Thanks for this response. The first paragraph sums up my opinion on this topic and says it better than I ever could have.


reply posted on 2-9-2008 @ 02:07 PM by schrodingers dog
reply to post by mister.old.school



First of all let me say that I nor anyone else have enough information at this time to determine if what you are correct in your theory. Time as in all things, will tell.

I have to applaud you for insight and understanding of the inner workings of political mechanics and the often complicated and misunderstood strategic underbelly of our democracy and Washington DC.

A couple of things to consider with this theory:

1. It assumes that when/if this plan was hatched, the GOP at the highest levels, had conceded this election to Sen. Obama. This is a "last resort" strategy that no one would gamble on working or/and being uncovered if the party felt McCain had a realistic chance of winning.

2. As has been mentioned before, one must also consider the upside/downside even if said theory is applied with precision. Does any "feel-good" or sympathetic reorientation of the American public towards what would become the new Republican ticket outweigh the massive hit that McCain would get for being such a poor decision maker. After all his role as would be president is to make decisions period, and in this case he would have made the wrong one. Even if the Democrats get some blame thrown their way.

I need to think about this more before I add anything else.

One of the most fascinating things in this election is the recent sequence of events with McCain's VP nomination. It has been such a comedy of errors and strange unconnected events, including the person nominated, that we are now seriously considering such conspiracies. That in itself is extraordinary.

The theory is plausible but unlikely.
Your thought process and the thread itself is imho, the most interesting and most thought provoking to date on ATS on these elections. Thank you for getting our brains thinking again.

Bravo!


reply posted on 2-9-2008 @ 02:09 PM by Anonymous ATS
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If you indeed worked as a volunteer for the McCain campaign you would have been informed to just report this particular blog and not to get involved in any way. You were also mostr definately not instructed as to any particular story to look for or be on the lookout for. You are a fraud plain and simple. Please dont claim to be something that you are not, if anything you are a Democrat posing as a Republican to just add fuel to the flame.




reply posted on 2-9-2008 @ 02:12 PM by marg6043
reply to post by mister.old.school



I agree also, I have taken into consideration the way that since day one of her appointment things has developed.

No doubt that her name has cause a desirable effect on McCain favor he now have the attention that he was lacking by the media.

Is so interesting that the daughter pregnancy was made public so fast and that now the media seems to forget about the runnin mate Palin for the Palin pregnant daughter.

Yes this has agenda written all over.

I will be disgusted if I was use as a political pawn for political agenda.


reply posted on 2-9-2008 @ 02:22 PM by havanaja
reply to post by mister.old.school



This scenario seems likely. A "bait and switch", classic "rope a dope" strategy and the Dems seem to have short memories about the last time they were scammed. Only hope that, in sympathy to her family, Palin is "in on the game" as theorized.


reply posted on 2-9-2008 @ 02:26 PM by sos37
reply to post by Benevolent Heretic



Hey I have no problem admitting my bias against Obama. We know he's linked more to William Ayers more than he will admit, and he's linked to Tony Rezko, Jeremiah Wright and Nadhmi Auchi.


reply posted on 2-9-2008 @ 02:31 PM by TheWayISeeIt
reply to post by Benevolent Heretic


I doubt McCain would know anything about this. I'm not at all sure he chose her. He's another Rove/Cheney puppet. In the future he could just reveal that he didn't choose her.


I think you are right about that BH. there was an article in the NYT's today quoting a campaign person saying that:

“They didn’t seriously consider her until four or five days from the time she was picked, before she was asked, maybe the Thursday or Friday before,” said a Republican close to the campaign. “This was really kind of rushed at the end, because John didn’t get what he wanted. He wanted to do Joe or Ridge.”
.LINK to NYT

I suspect the Republican’s don’t want to win the next election and get caught holding the bag of #e that is the U.S. economy, etc.

The only reason for Republicans to want to hold the office when the sky falls is to stay out of jail, and it seems that, at this point, they’d rather wager that an Obama admin would not pursue protracted criminal investigations into their various malfeasances’ than risk being the ones holding the bag.

Hence strong-arming McCain into a fatal VP pick.


reply posted on 2-9-2008 @ 02:35 PM by Multiple Junkie
reply to post by mister.old.school




(4) Key McCain operatives, posing as intense liberals, will seed blogs and bulletin boards with horrific claims about Palin.


Many of the original and nastiest claims regarding the original "Sarah Palin faked pregnancy to hide daughters baby" which started this whole mess before the campaign issued a statement to counter the speculation were trolls, posters with new accounts and no history of other interaction on those blogs. I was able to research myself by navigating through threads and posts.



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reply posted on 2-9-2008 @ 02:53 PM by jsobecky
reply to post by schrodingers dog




Originally posted by schrodingers dog


One of the most fascinating things in this election is the recent sequence of events with McCain's VP nomination. It has been such a comedy of errors and strange unconnected events, including the person nominated, that we are now seriously considering such conspiracies. That in itself is extraordinary.


There has been no comedy of errors, unless you are calling the fact that Governor Palin is a human being with human limitations just like every other man and woman on earth a comedy of errors.

No, no, no. The comedy of errors is the Obama campaign trying to smear Palin because her daughter is pregnant. That after they launched an unsuccessful smear campaign based upon maliciously manufactured lies that her son was in fact her grandson.

The comedy of errors is the fact that members have said that Sarah Palin's children are a disadvantage to her when it comes to holding office.

The only people "seriously considering conspiracies" over these family attacks are salacious, conniving types. People who would use a 17 year old girl's pregnancy as political fodder. Well, not everyone considers pregnancy a "mistake", as BO does.
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