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Celebrating Spring Wiccan Style

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posted on Mar, 24 2004 @ 11:33 AM
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And what makes Wicca a cult religion??? What is your definition of cult???

I hear Kristjians calling basically any religion other than their own cults. I want to see what they mean. Being a pagan, I understand that Kristjians view my practice as false, but please remember, my ancestors practiced Native American Shamanism (a pagan religion) long before Kristjianity ever started.




posted on Mar, 24 2004 @ 11:49 AM
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Cult
1a- A religion or religious sect generally considered to be extremist or false, with its followers often living in an unconventional manner under the guidance of an authoritarian, charismatic leader.
1b- The followers of such a religion or sect.
2- A system or community of religious worship and ritual.
3- The formal means of expressing religious reverence; religious ceremony and ritual.
4- A usually nonscientific method or regimen claimed by its originator to have exclusive or exceptional power in curing a particular disease.
5a- Obsessive, especially faddish, devotion to or veneration for a person, principle, or thing.
5b- The object of such devotion.
6- An exclusive group of persons sharing an esoteric, usually artistic or intellectual interest.



posted on Mar, 24 2004 @ 11:53 AM
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Conspiracy
1- An agreement to perform together an illegal, wrongful, or subversive act.
2- A group of conspirators.
3- Law. An agreement between two or more persons to commit a crime or accomplish a legal purpose through illegal action.
4- A joining or acting together, as if by sinister design: a conspiracy of wind and tide that devastated coastal areas.

n 1: a secret agreement between two or more people to perform an unlawful act [syn: confederacy] 2: a plot to carry out some harmful or illegal act (especially a political plot) [syn: cabal] 3: a group of conspirators banded together to achieve some harmful or illegal purpose [syn: confederacy]



posted on Mar, 24 2004 @ 11:56 AM
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Religion
1a- Belief in and reverence for a supernatural power or powers regarded as creator and governor of the universe.
1b- A personal or institutionalized system grounded in such belief and worship.
2- The life or condition of a person in a religious order.
3- A set of beliefs, values, and practices based on the teachings of a spiritual leader.
4- A cause, principle, or activity pursued with zeal or conscientious devotion.



posted on Mar, 24 2004 @ 12:14 PM
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Wicca is not a cult. It is a religion. The main deities of Wicca are the Goddess and her consort, the Horned God. They have many names and manifestations, but "all gods are one God, and all goddesses are one Goddess."

Before you go putting the cult label on other religions, remember that the Romans called the early Christians cultists too.

And no, I'm not Wiccan, just an eclectic Witch.



posted on Mar, 24 2004 @ 12:32 PM
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"2- A system or community of religious worship and ritual.
3- The formal means of expressing religious reverence; religious ceremony and ritual.
4- A usually nonscientific method or regimen claimed by its originator to have exclusive or exceptional power in curing a particular disease.
5a- Obsessive, especially faddish, devotion to or veneration for a person, principle, or thing.
5b- The object of such devotion. "


Hmmmm, seems that this particular set of definitions defines nearly every single religion out there INCLUDING Kristjianity. So, more or less, anyone involved in any religion is a member of a cult.

Add to that what Hecate said, and I think all is sumed up quite well.



posted on Mar, 24 2004 @ 12:38 PM
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Originally posted by ET3
Just another religion thread that a religionist got posted and should be moved. Religious discussion and conspiracy are a bit different. But then what can I say, just words in a post.


ET3 -

Since I posted the original post, I would like to answer your concern. I am new to this community and perhaps I should have posted this on BTS; however, if the powers that be have a problem with it's location (and so far they have not moved it or trashed it) then I'm sure they will take care of this situation.

There are a lot of things I see on these boards that I do not agree with. I, however, choose to let people discuss these topics, not interfer with their discussion or knock them down for their beliefs.

If you're not interested, don't read it!



posted on Mar, 24 2004 @ 12:44 PM
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I'm not saying the mods of this forum are not doing a good job or implying anything similar to that, but half if not 3/4 of the posts here have nothing to do with "conspiracies" and could have been made in the "Faith, Spirituality & Theology" forum on BTS.

So, instead of ranting because you didn't liked a particular post from someone (and, by doing so, not contributing at all to the thread in question - kinda like I'm doing right now - d'oh!), why don't you let them Mods judge if it's worthy of ATS or not?



posted on Mar, 24 2004 @ 12:49 PM
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hold on aminute.

i didnt get nasty with you people,thats my opinion.


i really had someone put a curse on me of biols and such, and he said he learned them from
some pagan teaching.


thats not right and i dont care what you think.


im a normal soul who is harmless and dont need spells put on me, because frankly its pathetic.


i guess im always the bad guy.


peace



posted on Mar, 24 2004 @ 01:18 PM
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Originally posted by ImAlreadyPsycho

Hmmmm, seems that this particular set of definitions defines nearly every single religion out there INCLUDING Kristjianity. So, more or less, anyone involved in any religion is a member of a cult.


I would have to say yes to that, ImAlreadyPsycho, each of the religious groups have their dogmatic rituals, thus is also a cult.



posted on Mar, 24 2004 @ 01:42 PM
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Hey, we found something to agree upon. That my friend is a good start. We can build from there.


I have no feelings toward anyone who practices any religion. I actually feel that when you get to the meat and bones of any religion, they are all technically the same. Save Satanism, which is only a form of ANIT- religion. Other than that, all religions have a "golden rule" of sorts, all have similar practices, similar gods, similar everything. Everyone should be free to practice what they like.

As far as somone casting a spell on you Truth, I would only be able to say that, what they sent to you will in time come back to them 3fold. The three fold law states that what you send out to the world will come back to you for both good and bad. In the end, they will get theirs, and for everyones sake, lets hope they do literally get it "in the end". I was not trying to come across to you as being nasty, as I know you were not. It was simply your ignorance toward the religion shining through. (please note that ignorance is not bad, quite the contrary, ignorance means you have not been placed into an evironment good for learning, ignorance is quite fine where I stand. It is those who choose NOT to learn that are the problem.)

May the great spirit be with you all.

Blessed Be

Whitewolf



posted on Mar, 24 2004 @ 01:45 PM
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Originally posted by Lady Lily
Since the Spring Equinox is Saturday, how do Wiccans "celebrate" this event?



Don't they dance around a maypole?



I used to belong to a wiccan club, not for long though, grew out of it, and it's too much work, yes i'm lazy.
They had a witches ball and I would have to say that was best damn halloween party i've ever been to!
They really are great people. The good ones anyway.



posted on Mar, 24 2004 @ 01:49 PM
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Originally posted by Truth
hold on aminute.

i didnt get nasty with you people,thats my opinion.


i really had someone put a curse on me of biols and such, and he said he learned them from
some pagan teaching.


thats not right and i dont care what you think.


im a normal soul who is harmless and dont need spells put on me, because frankly its pathetic.


i guess im always the bad guy.


peace




You know what happens on message boards?
The people that do jump the gun and put down n flame people are nothing but lemmings.

I wouldn't worry about what people say. Those are the people who also don't know sarcasm or joke when it hits them over the head. They are so defensive, and that ruins message boards for everybody. Meaning that some people don't want to post because others are trying to censor them.

It's stupid I know, but you'll encounter stupid people everywhere you go, just fluff em off. Not to mention you shouldn't even give them the time of day defending yourself. They want confrontation rather then an intellecutal debate or conversation. And those my friend are small minds.


Whos that guy who said


"small minds discuss people large minds discuss ideas"

?????????????????????


Fkuc em.



posted on Mar, 24 2004 @ 04:42 PM
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Well it looks like some Mod is doing his or her job finally.
Too bad the definition for conspiracy has to be posted to prove what goes where.



posted on Mar, 24 2004 @ 06:35 PM
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BTW, the Maypole is traditionally a fixture at Beltane (May 1). I'm sure I don't need to explain what it represents.



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