Good Wolf of Southland calling here.

Fellow kiwis, what is going on in this country that needs to be talked about? I wouldn't mind hearing some details on Winston Peters money scandal but I dont want this thread to be exclusive about that.

What's you view of the state of the nation?




Also the first time you post in this thread, add at the bottom of the post your region, please. (I wanna see what kind of national cross section we have here)

In Gore and Southland in general, gangs are on the rise. "The Firm" are throwing their weight around, (although a mini riot recently showed them that they are not welcome here).




....... I really hope i'm not the only Kiwi on ATS.

[edit on 9/2/2008 by Good Wolf]

Hello my friend,

No I am not a New Zealander, nor have I ever visited, but this thread looked so lonely I thought I would put Google to work and find out what is wrong with New Zealand. I came up with the following assumptions.

1. You have a lesbian Prime Minister that looks more like a man than a woman. She engages in a sham marriage to hide her blatant raving homosexuality. Furthermore, after all the power and money she has horded one would think she would have been in contact with a good orthodontist.

2. The country is drowning in a “welfare mentality” with thousands of scroungers putting their hand out. These people are NOT indigenous, they are the first colonist, so they have no claim there. They need to get over themselves and get on with it. These people form ghettos anywhere they congregate and make the whole area into one big trailer park. They thrive on domestic violence, theft and boozing.

3. Your country has a week and pathetic economy due to a lack of working population (way too many on welfare). NZ lacks the industry to grow strong, so it will always be a lower middle class at best country (they don’t even have an Air Force!). Careful or Fiji will overtake your GDP.

4. Your only claim to fame seems to be a game called Rugby and extreme sports. These were born from a “need to make our own fun” prepubescent mentality that you have never snapped out of. Time to grow up methinks.

So I guess it should come as no surprise when Clark Helen, I mean Helen Clarkson finally announces to the whole country “Would the last person out please switch off the lights”

This, I guess, is as good a place to ask this question as any other.

Why is New Zealand abbreviated "Oz"? Anyone know?

Pretty much all of our economy is built on farm, fruit and veg and tourism, throw in some wine in as well.

Our dollar has been fairly high considering our economic history, to the point that it's cushioning the brunt of the fuel prices.


I could be wrong of course, my decerning studies in the last 8 months have been primarily on American Empire/911/neo-con/NWO affairs.

And yes, our country is run by a horse, but this cat-foo-too-be is smarter than most of our politicians, especially national parties who will drastically worsen our welfare by perpetuating it, helping more people to get on the govt' tit.

Originally posted by sir_chancealot
This, I guess, is as good a place to ask this question as any other.

Why is New Zealand abbreviated "Oz"? Anyone know?

It isnt. 'Oz' is Australia! Australia and New Zealand have a sibling rivalry and a culture of competitiveness.


There are many kiwis who would respond to your error with a punch in the nose.

[edit on 9/2/2008 by Good Wolf]

Well, while you are looking at NWO and American policies and the neocons, check out the neolibs and Brzezinski. He wrote a book called "The Grand Chessboard," and was in Carter's administration. He is the Dems answer to Kissinger. He has also advised Obama.

I really came to this thread to ask- how come you guys are called kiwis? Do they grow there?

And I heard that you are not too friendly to tourists there. Is that true?

I've never been to NZ, even though I have relatives there - so someday I hope to go.

As a UK resident (of Irish descent) my feeling is that we have a similar relationship with NZ as we do with the ozzies, albeit a little friendlier.

The main rivalry with NZ and the UK is rugby, although cricket is keenly contested as well.

From the pics I've seen (relatives who visited) and the TV I've seen, NZ is a very beautiful and varied place, and I know from first hand they produce some good wines

I haven't ever really had a look at the economy or the politics, but it would be good to read some insights in this thread.

Man is thread a flop. and it seemed such a good idea.

Thanks for posting. I'm for nuclear too.

Where can I get some info on this global warming scheme.


I am ALWAYS VERY angry when global warming is peddled for new tax.

Do you remember the fart tax fiasco from a couple of years back?

Originally posted by Good Wolf
Pretty much all of our economy is built on farm, fruit and veg and tourism, throw in some wine in as well.

Our dollar has been fairly high considering our economic history, to the point that it's cushioning the brunt of the fuel prices.


I could be wrong of course, my decerning studies in the last 8 months have been primarily on American Empire/911/neo-con/NWO affairs.

And yes, our country is run by a horse, but this cat-foo-too-be is smarter than most of our politicians, especially national parties who will drastically worsen our welfare by perpetuating it, helping more people to get on the govt' tit.

Hey GW, I lived and worked in NZ for a couple of months...

I loved your country, people and all!

I do remeber your PM... My mates over there would mess with me. I still don't know if its a man, woman or a sex change accident gone bad?

I do recall that there are a bunch of coconuts that love the government pay off.


I also remember the cartoon were the ethnic family would drive around on a forklift

SO I'm sorry I am out of the loop now but I would not worry to much about the government tit... I say this because I saw great function in your society.
THE US is secretly near civil war in my opinion. One group wants the government to help and the companies to pay a fair share. The other group wants to reduce the taxes on the companies in hopes that it will mean more jobs. HOWEVER the companies own our lives- information, time, bank accounts and will, there is not much more to give to these faceless gods of existence.

We are on the verge here even if it is not spoken of...

I think you guys should not try to fix something that is not completely broken. I believe that majority of most KIWIS love to work hard and play fair. This is a rare thing in any nation and more then enough to build upon (not limit or destroy- neocon way)

When my land goes up in a NEOCON fireball I will hopefully have made it back there to my home away from home.

Originally posted by WatchNLearn
Hello my friend,

No I am not a New Zealander, nor have I ever visited, but this thread looked so lonely I thought I would put Google to work and find out what is wrong with New Zealand. I came up with the following assumptions.

1. You have a lesbian Prime Minister that looks more like a man than a woman. She engages in a sham marriage to hide her blatant raving homosexuality. Furthermore, after all the power and money she has horded one would think she would have been in contact with a good orthodontist.

stop it my sides are splitting

Interestedly New Zealand has something like the third highest teenage pregnancy rate in the world . One school of thought I have heard links the high rates of teen pregnancy to poverty . I admit that the link isnt entirely clear to me . To be honest other then not hiding the issue of suicide in the closet I don't have any ideas how the issue should be tackled at any age group level . I was against the criticism laid against the Fight for Life event and other measures taken to a raise awareness .

On another matter do you support MMP ?
I do and I think its time that we settled on our electoral system . I also think that the unicameral Parliament works well .