Originally posted by Cythraul
What's important is that it's the elite vs the people, not nation vs nation. The world is being ruined by elites from almost every nation. We, the
British people, are as opposed to this conspiracy as anyone else in the world, and in some ways we're just as much victims of it.
Granted that everything you've said is true, but it still doesn't account the fact that
no government can continue to exist without the consent
of the people. Whatever any government actually does, they do so in the name of the people they govern.
People only exist due to the Laws of Nature (whether you believe in a Creator or not, the Laws of Nature are still the only things that allow us to
exist). Governments are created by People...People lived & thrived for a long time
without governments. The final & ultimate "government" is
each & every individual who lives...In essence, the ultimate government for you is yourself. All other governments exist only because People gather
together & want to create it for the common purpose of the society itself. Thus, governments only exist & act within what powers granted by the
People.
History has proven numerous times that when government loses the consent of the People, it falls. Sometimes due to revolt/revolution/rebellion,
sometimes the underlying society grows weak (& therefore the government grows weak as well) & are invaded or the People refuse to support the
government & it collapses under its own weight.
The real question is, "How are they getting my consent?"
For most people, they've buckled under the lies & deception spewed by the government itself & don't stop to think, "That's atrocious! My own laws
don't let
me do that, so why does the
government do it in my name? I don't have the Rightful Power to do that myself so I could not
have given the government that Power." A government such as that is one that only gains public consent through lies, treachery & applying force to
generate fear in the public.
Even when you hear phrases like, "not all of the people of (whatever nation) agree with the government," the truth is that there's still
enough people still supporting the government that it maintains its power. When there are
enough people that disagree with government,
then the government must either change its ways or it will cease to exist...In the same form, anyway.
This is the underlying truth that most People don't look at when they complain about government. It's the people that
don't recognize this
truth that are equating their nation with the government itself. It's the People that don't recognize this truth are guilty (of aiding & abetting)
of the same crimes that the government commits. Whenever the government commits a crime that would get an ordinary citizen arrested, then People must
recognize that the government (at least, those officers
in government specifically responsible)
must face the penalties for the crime or
the people themselves are just as guilty because they let the government get away with
committing the crime.
That's the cold, hard truth...Governments commit atrocities because the people
let them do it! This is the
core of the conflict between
the "elite vs. society," between "government vs. people." The People wind up on the losing side when they don't stand up & take the basic
responsibility to
govern their own selves & instead let the government do it for them. The whole core truth of "elite vs. people" is evident
down throughout history...The elite seeks to mold governments & societies towards their own personal ideals, whether or not that's what the people
want for themselves. They can only do so through deceit & trickery & they only get away with it for as long as people don't see the lies & treachery
for what it really is.
This is why time is running out...The people have lost the truth due to
generations of the self-styled elite "socially engineering" the
public to accept the government without questioning. People must realize that "patriotism" is not blindly obeying the government. Patriotism is
loving your country & your fellow countrymen/women...Even if it means opposing a government that does
not do the same.
This was the whole core of the War of Independence & the creation of the Constitutional Republic of America. This is the core of the truth I've been
posting, right from the Preamble of the
Declaration of Independence:
We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights,
that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness. — That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their
just powers from the consent of the governed, — That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the
People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as
to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness.
This is not a truth meant for just Americans...It's a truth of
all people! Time is running out because some people are remembering the truth &
it's scaring the "ruling elite" because they see it. It's scaring them into using more
force to get compliance out of the people. It's
scaring them into declaring that all citizens are "criminals" (The Patriot Act) as an illusion to convince as many people as possible that the
government's use of force is "justified." This is why Bush has "ramped up" the centralization of control under the Oval Office...Because people
are remembering the truth & the truth always scares those who "rule" behind a cloak of lies.
[edit on 3-9-2008 by MidnightDStroyer]