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reply posted on 2-9-2008 @ 12:17 AM by oatie
On a side note i was checking CNN and found an interesting video here is the link

www.cnn.com...#/video/politics/2008/09/01/vo.rnc.protest.pepper.spray.cnn

listen to what one of the protester's shouts halfway through the video

it sounds like he is saying "police state 2008"

[edit on 2-9-2008 by oatie]

damn you will have to cut and paste the rest in.

[edit on 2-9-2008 by oatie]

Oh and in relation to the original post. if that does happen it will be the LA riots all over again except it will be nation wide.

[edit on 2-9-2008 by oatie]



reply posted on 2-9-2008 @ 12:29 AM by Ameneter
reply to post by Truther


What does Paul Craig Roberts have to do with this post? LaRouche has been around for centuries preaching the same thing. Please respond.


reply posted on 2-9-2008 @ 02:19 AM by Horza
Originally posted by Ameneter
reply to
post by Truther


What does Paul Craig Roberts have to do with this post? LaRouche has been around for centuries preaching the same thing. Please respond.


I agree ... OP please explain???

I was interested in Paul Craig Roberts ... LaRouche is old hat


reply posted on 2-9-2008 @ 07:35 AM by Anonymous ATS
As a Brit (who spent several years living in the US) I found this video, and the absolute rubbish that has been written supporting it to be incredibly scary and offensive. To imply that the UK and Dutch were behind the evil facists of the 30s, right at the moment of the anniversary of the Battle of Britain - a point in history when only the British Empire stood fighting Nazi Germany and facist Italy, is quite frankly beyond insulting.

This kind of attitude, and absurd mental behaviour is exactly why Americans are loosing their last ounces of credibility in the world. From the UK and Europe we watch as Americans spew increasingly crazy rhetoric and accusations at everyone. If its not the Russians or Chinese it the British or Dutch. Always some kind of vast conspiracy isn't there.

Of course, the world of politics, history, economics and war is laced with mystery, espionage and lies, but this is 'taking the biscuit' so-to-speak! I used to love America, but this kind of thinking really makes me wonder if I was wrong to defend America during my student years, if I was wrong to be so anti-EU. To be honest I'd rather throw my lot in with the Germans, French, Italians, Dutch, Spanish, Belgians, Poles, Portugese, Irish etc than consider myself to be allied to a nation which gives any kind of popular support to such idiots as those on the video.

Americans are the most invasive, powerful and paranoid people on the planet. Of course, they also have the largest web presence so the perpetual cycle of paranoid insanity expressed frequently on ATS will only escalate and I shall be shot down by the madmen.

Fingers crossed we will survive the coming years.


reply posted on 2-9-2008 @ 08:24 AM by dariousg
Originally posted by Amaterasu
Originally posted by Jay-in-AR
Star and flag.

This is great stuff. Spot on and good work. The gentleman in the video is right, folks. Think before you elect McCain into power. It can't even be close. He cannot be allowed into office. Obama must be elected by a landslide. If the vote is close they'll rig it.


I think they will puppetize Obama (if they haven't already). I don't think it makes any difference.

I recommend voting for Ron Paul.


I believe that this could be the case. However, the problem is this. We know for a FACT that voting for Ron Paul (which I will most likely be doing myself so I guess I'm just fuming here) means that the lesser of two evils will probably lose votes. Because to me, Ron is an 'independent' and not a true republican. Which is more of my line of thought.

Who would you rather have in office? McCain or Obama? To me I would rather give Obama a shot to make a difference. In the past, it has always been the democrats that have, when called for, stood up to the 'system'. To the big money. At least he is saying the right things. McCain is saying all of the wrong things.

He WANTS war with Iran. He WANTS war with Russia. I haven't heard him slamming the Chinese so I don't know his feelings there but I can make a pretty sound guess. He has this big egotistical view that America is unbeatable in war. The problem is this. If we start all of this fronts like the conservatives are trying to do (obviously with the illogical thought that GOD will back them) then this country is sunk. We will have foreign forces on our soil for the first time since the revolutionary war. That will do no good for everyone involved.

So, if I have to, I would RATHER go with Obama over McCain. At least with Obama there is a better chance that war will not happen. With McCain it is virtually guaranteed.

And NO, I don't believe that it is unavoidable. I believe that, as usual, we are being mislead about Iran and Russia. It's the same old fear tactics, different decade.



reply posted on 2-9-2008 @ 08:42 AM by son of PC
reply to post by Truther


I think there will be another false flag attack on the US. But what, when. Who will be blamed. Who is the new enemy.
Why does there have to be a big war. Don't we all have enough to do without it. If the world slips into the madness of a nuclear exchange, does it mean that we are insane animals. Are the UFOs circling overhead simply modern day vultures waiting for us to fall.


reply posted on 2-9-2008 @ 09:21 AM by crimvelvet
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Who would you rather have in office? McCain or Obama? To me I would rather give Obama a shot to make a difference.


Obama is bought and paid for. His Global poverty tax shows this since the money will be used to help the likes of Monsanto to bankrupt third world farmers as it has done in India (a farmer suicides about every 8 hrs)

The WTO and UN want to "harmonize" regulations that strangle the family farmer with redtape. Corporations and the rich are already buying up the farmland that the family farmers have been driven off of. Corporations are backing laws that do allow the sale of unpatented seed...The long boring details of how it is being done are at www.abovetopsecret.com...'





SEC. SCHAFER: ...Second, the United States supports urgent measures to attack the underlying causes of food availability in developing countries that have the capacity to rapidly increase production and availability of staple foods.
Third, the United States will propose that all countries consider strategies that expand research, promote science-based regulations, and encourage innovative technology – including biotechnology.

... Administrator Fore and I will be hosting a side event focused on new technologies to showcase developing countries that have moved forward with public investment in adoption of bioengineered products.
www.usda.gov...

Please visit the link provided for the complete story.




Sec Schafer makes it clear in these statements that the US will be “encouraging” Third World Countries to implement international food and agriculture regulations. Schafer's term “science-based regulations” means a country has “harmonized their food legislation with Codex Alimentarius standards” see: www.fao.org...


I wonder if all the sabor rattling is being done to take attention away from the real issues as the USA heads into the election?

Remember on June 3rd? the Bilderburg group met and three days later Ron Paul quit running despite the promises he made a few days before. However Ron Paul woke a lot of people up. Farmers and Horse owners are upset about NAIS and the USDA gestopo tactics. That woke up more people. The fixing of voting machines has become known so people may demand paper balloting making election fixing more difficult Many people do not like either candidate and are angry enough to vote third party. Despite media propaganda I think the election is not as cut and dry as those in power hope. So sabor rattling is needed to divert the attention of the swing voters.
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