Sarah Palin announces daughter is pregnant, page 15
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reply posted on 2-9-2008 @ 11:06 AM by dbates
reply to post by Choppy

Since this thread was about Palin's daughter getting pregnant, I was just trying to determine how this issue would ruin your world. I see now that you're just talking about abortion in general. I didn't get that out of your original comment. So yeah, my comment looks silly doesn't it?

Well at least I understand where you're coming from now.


reply posted on 2-9-2008 @ 11:14 AM by Choppy
reply to post by dbates


My original comments had nothing to do with abortion. Thanks for trying to paint me with a "pro-abortion" brush.

My original point was that how ironic that a woman who preaches abstinence, no birth control and no abortions for all of us, has a teenage daughter who got pregnant. Those views worked out really well for that family, no?

She knew going into the race that her whole family would be under the spotlight, and yet she chose to drag them into this. Unfortunately, all canidates' families go through this. Rush Limbaugh notoriously called Chelsea Clinton a dog.

People are talking about the pregnancy (and were before it was annouced) because Sarah chose to bring her family into this spotlight. It is fair game because Sarah made it fair game.


reply posted on 2-9-2008 @ 11:34 AM by dbates
reply to post by Choppy

No, the irony of that wasn't lost on me. My father's brother was a health nut yet died from cancer while my dad who ate whatever he wanted to excess is still alive and in good health. Life if full of great irony like this. One of my favorite songs is "Ironic" by Alanis Morissette. Mostly because it's so true.


reply posted on 2-9-2008 @ 12:12 PM by Choppy
Originally posted by dbates
reply to post by Choppy

No, the irony of that wasn't lost on me. My father's brother was a health nut yet died from cancer while my dad who ate whatever he wanted to excess is still alive and in good health. Life if full of great irony like this. One of my favorite songs is "Ironic" by Alanis Morissette. Mostly because it's so true.



That made me laugh, but now I am not sure if you're joking! Alanis Morissette's song "Ironic" is famously not about irony.

An old man turned ninety-eight
He won the lottery and died the next day
It's a black fly in your Chardonnay
It's a death row pardon two minutes too late
Isn't it ironic ... don't you think
It's like rain on your wedding day
...


That is not irony. It's bad luck.

Anyway, back to Palin. I just found this interesting article by the liberal and left-wing Time Magazine (owned by the liberal/left-wing AOL Time Warner conglomerate).


reply posted on 2-9-2008 @ 12:52 PM by MsFab
Originally posted by Choppy
My original point was that how ironic that a woman who preaches abstinence, no birth control and no abortions for all of us, has a teenage daughter who got pregnant. Those views worked out really well for that family, no?


You can talk to your kids over and over about the benefits of abstinence but at 17 she can't force her child to not have sex. Palin has every right to her abstinence, no birth control, no abortion views and just because her 17 year old daughter is pregnant doesn't mean that she no longer believes in those views.

I'm sure there are tons of us on ATS that had sex at 17 and I feel that it doesn't necessarily reflect on the parents as to how well they raised their child or not.

I'm sure Palin shared her abstinence views with her daughter, but at 17 I'm sure the girl felt it was her decision that she had to make for herself wether or not she agreed with or would practice her mother's views.

I don't feel that the choices her child makes has anything to do with wether or not she is qualified to be a vice-president.

I may get alot of flack for this, but my issue with Palin is the fact that, though I feel woman are equal to men and deserve every right a man has and I do feel there are woman that are more capable than man in alot of areas, I just don't feel that a woman should be in high power. Though I will not let her gender play a factor into how I vote, I will vote for the party that I think will best lead this country into the direction I would like to see it in.
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reply posted on 2-9-2008 @ 02:37 PM by Bunch
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I highly doubt that that BABYGATE would cause that McCain would ask her to drop out either publicly or privately he would look even more incompetent, his credibility would be damage more than it already is, and his blatant lack of judgement exposed beyond any doubt.

McCain made this situation foe himself, he let his political ambitions get the best of him, I am so down in McCain right now, so dissapointed, I was a supporter of him during the Straight Talk Express and to see how much he has change since then is just sad.

Can you imaging how easy it would had been to pick Romney, Ridge... Jeez even Guliani with all his baggage would have made this look as a safe pick. What about the governor from Lousiana, you saw him on TV all this weekend, picking him too would have been of great impact.

All we have now is Days of our Lives- Alaska Edition
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