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Sun. 8/31/08
* (To Obama backstage at the Convention last week: ) "Did you ever doubt it (your nomination) was going to happen?"
* (To Biden backstage at the Convention: ) "Were you surprised to be up there (on stage with Obama)?"
The sit-down:
* (To Obama: ) "What do you think of Sen. McCain's vice presidential choice?"
* (To Obama: ) "Does the fact that he (McCain) chose as his vice president someone who has less experience than you take away that weapon out of his arsenal?"
* (To Biden: ) "Have you two talked, have you spoken specifically, about what your role would be in an Obama administration?" (Obama jumped in to answer, and Kroft didn't stop him!)
* (To Biden: ) "What's your role in the campaign? Can you make a difference in this race? And how do you do that?"
# (To Obama: ) "You've just come through a very historic week. I mean, politically, this was a real milestone in American history. But yet there was almost no mention made of it." (Apparently Kroft didn't pick up a newspaper or turn on a television in the last week.) "You made no mention of it, and the Democratic Party made no mention of it, almost no mention of it. Why is that? You're the first black person ever to be nominated by a major party."
(Obama's response: "I think people noticed that.") (Great question, Steve ...)
# (To Obama): "You are running against the record of an administration that is one of the most unpopular in history of the country." (Hey, Steve. Exactly what position does McCain hold inside the Bush administration?) "And there are people that believe that you should be much farther ahead in the polls than you are. What do you say to that? And are you comfortable with the way this race is going and where you are right now?"
KROFT: There was an issue in 1988 involving plagiarism, which I'm sure the Republicans are working on a campaign commercial now.
Originally posted by mental modulator
YES but youtube is messed up from me...
All day yesterday FOX news (fox and friends for example) were talking up Palins
experience and foreign policy experience as many here have regurgitated line for line, logic and all.
This was an attempt to inoculate the GOP VP choice from criticism from people like me who feel she is under-qualified. Fox had all the "bases" covered in regards to all my criticisms,' based upon this particular issue.
This was a clear preemptive attempt to discredit my line of opinion and my intellectual argument. I know this is the case because they were exactly in tune with my -CON- argument as I was forming them.
The talking heads even played out the arguments. ONE slyly presenting the question to the other, in which the other speaker would say, "glad you brought up that point,,, did you know that ALASKA boarders RUSSIA a foreign nation... yada ya"
SO YES!
You yourself have argued the exact same logic as my TV presented to my arguments.
Similar words and you brought up Obama's contrasting "lack" experience with the same points and logic as FOX presented.
I have yet to here one new acclamation on PALINS experience that I have not heard first on FOX.
This was an attempt to inoculate the GOP VP choice from criticism from people like me who feel she is under-qualified. Fox had all the "bases" covered in regards to all my criticisms,' based upon this particular issue.
Originally posted by Dronetek
reply to post by mental modulator
Fox has to, since every other network is downplaying and even dismissing her experience. While at the same time, downplaying the importance of Obama's experience. How does that make sense to you? You seem to be arguing that Fox is wrong, for reporting a side of the story that EVERY OTHER NETWORK refuses to report. Which is probably why Fox has the most balanced demographics for views.
This was an attempt to inoculate the GOP VP choice from criticism from people like me who feel she is under-qualified. Fox had all the "bases" covered in regards to all my criticisms,' based upon this particular issue.
Perhaps, but again its the onlyt network thats willing to give her a fair shot. All of the other networks do their best to innoculate Obama and attack Mccain/Palin.
Please explain to me how your brain figures a single network is equal to 7 left wing networks and several major left wing print medias? Without Fox, it would just be, "Obama experience doesn't matter, Palins experience does matter". Which doesn't even make sense since Obama is running for the presidency. All you're doing is justifying this blatant propaganda, by attacking Fox for giving a different perspective.
Originally posted by Jemison
I'm a little confused on how we went from the CBS 60 minutes interview to a discussion on Fox.
Will McCain/Palin be on 60 Minutes this coming Sunday?
I challenge ANYONE here to show me an instance where the media interviews McCain or Palin this way.
On the other hand I do not agree with FOX's approach either. I hold a very deep grudge in regards to fox because of the broadcasters equating a differing opinion to the war as UNAMERICAN and UNPATRIOTIC. This was NOT professional and not responsible
for this entity to actively inject it influence into homes of many. Instead of arguing the merits of debate and intellectual discourse, they helped fan a very bitter devision
by attacking character not facts or options.
Originally posted by Dronetek
reply to post by mental modulator
On the other hand I do not agree with FOX's approach either. I hold a very deep grudge in regards to fox because of the broadcasters equating a differing opinion to the war as UNAMERICAN and UNPATRIOTIC. This was NOT professional and not responsible
for this entity to actively inject it influence into homes of many. Instead of arguing the merits of debate and intellectual discourse, they helped fan a very bitter devision
by attacking character not facts or options.
The irony is, all the other networks paint anyone not supporting liberal causes as unamerican or stupid. If you support the war, you're labeled a warmonger and they claim you don't care about he troops. Or they call you a "neocon", as if to imply you are some sort of Nazi out to destroy america. How is that any different? Is it another case of "its ok when democrats do it"?
It goes both ways buddy. The only difference is one side has a lot more influence and power. Plus, we don't bitch about it as much because WE KNOW we aren't unpatriotic in our hearts. Why the left gets so defensive about it is up for interpretation.
[edit on 1-9-2008 by Dronetek]
Plus, we don't bitch about it as much because WE KNOW we aren't unpatriotic in our hearts. Why the left gets so defensive about it is up for interpretation.
Remnant of the time I was in your shoes???
By the way I will now be calling SARAH PALIN GODDESSARAH in protest of the MESSIAH reference.
If you will stop using the word liberal as a an adjective I will not engage in the GODDESSARAH bit as an act of good will.(that will probably be a no huh?)
[edit on 1-9-2008 by mental modulator]
Originally posted by zlots331
Man, let me tell you, I have cable but only watch the one true channel for all my news and I only listen to one radio broadcast because that's where I get the truth and nothing but the truth.
Actually it's probably because I live in a cave and have forgotten to think for myself.
If you want to get an unbiased opinion, try the BBC. Kind of makes Fox, and Rush, and all of the corporately controlled media in this country look pretty silly.
"Your mind is like a parachute; it works best when open"
"Ditto" that, good buddy. (By the way, I've always wanted to know...where does Rush go to church? I'd like to shake his hand sometime)
If you want to get an unbiased opinion, try the BBC. Kind of makes Fox, and Rush, and all of the corporately controlled media in this country look pretty silly.
HE BBC is institutionally biased, an official report will conclude this week. The year-long investigation, commissioned by the BBC, has found the corporation particularly partial in its treatment of single-issue politics such as climate change, poverty, race and religion.
Pay attention to it... Also pay attention how many times the word conservative is used in this same manner. There is a huge difference, probably 20-1...
ust as my colleague Brent Baker found on Friday night, the big broadcast networks on Saturday morning showed no shyness about labeling Republican vice presidential candidate Sarah Palin a “conservative,” with NBC Today co-host Amy Robach calling her “a staunch conservative,” CBS’s Chip Reid tagging her “reliably conservative,” and ABC’s Kate Snow finding Palin to be “quite conservative.”
But seven days earlier, as those same programs reacted to the Obama campaign’s text message heralding Joe Biden as the Democratic vice presidential candidate, none of those broadcast found a moment to call him “liberal,” in spite of Biden’s lengthy record of liberal votes as determined by the nonpartisan National Journal.
Do you not recall seeing GENERALS on every single network actively promoting and talking stategy on the initial
IRAQ strike???
Every single night on every station you would have voices ALL in concert supporting the PRO BUSH - PRO GOP doctrine of PREEMPTIVE WAR?
On another note: I remember a time when ALL people who were against the war were called and leveled as UNPATRIOTIC, UNAMERICAN, TERRORIST LOVERS, LIBERAL TERRORIST LOVER, PRO TERROR...Once again I remember this vividly because it ANGERED me to no end.
Shall I also post the source clips of FOX introducing the public lexicon, OBAMASIAH???