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ET's Are Our Friends, They Love Us

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posted on Sep, 1 2008 @ 04:55 PM
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this is a reserved post, for future review, until then, GTDO (get the duck off!)




posted on Sep, 1 2008 @ 04:59 PM
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So what is your take on all the negative, and painful experiences from people who were kidnapped by beings believed to be aliens? Your position can't just overlook this.



posted on Sep, 1 2008 @ 05:00 PM
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Very asute post Admriker444 and I hope people will re-read it.

Anything is possible and each and everyone of us only has a piece of the puzzel so far.






posted on Sep, 1 2008 @ 05:06 PM
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When the time is right, the govts of the world will "come clean" and tell us of the alien problem. They will say "we kept this secret to protect you" and to further protect you we will need to unite under one banner.


And, what if, there really IS an alien problem? It doesn't matter if most are nice, a few not-nice ones can make for a very bad one million sunblock kind of day.

What if the boys and girls of the USAF are really serving their country and protecting the planet? For real.

I agree we ought to be skeptical of propaganda---but we should also be at least as skeptical of those who come here and don't introduce themselves nicely. In the end, even government employees have families who live on Earth and for whom it really does matter that the world stays OK. ETs? they can always go back home somewhere else.



posted on Sep, 1 2008 @ 05:13 PM
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to the OP, you have a point. But your point does not rule out what our own government might be able to do. Perhaps what you perceive as aliens or dimensional entities, are the product of some sort of earth based mind control. An ancient race that still lives here and got some high technology but not high enough to leave the planet, just live undetected on the planet malevolently orchestrating the lives of the younger specie of the planet, human.

Within the realms of duality, evil is only relative to ignorance, same as good, so what we see as good may not actually be good, and what we think is bad, might actually be good. Point is, if you perceive these beings with your rational mind, and its not an enlightening experience like that of shmanic ritual, you cannot say for sure they are not simply utilizing the art of war. Deception. Misdirection.

Now lets look at the sumerian idea of some sort of slave driving alien that uses us as a slave when they come around to collect us. What better way to get us asking to be taken then to come and intervene with a positive message as a farce to get you onboard? Would not a benevolent being just put situations in your life for you to find enlightenment on your own, and leave the interaction with beings out of it while you are still susceptible to duality illusions? The benevolent being of great enlightenment knows this, and so should you.

Many a people claim enlightenment from contact with such beings, now I believe some of them, but for the most part, I see a lot of people parading around thinking they are special for it. That is not enlightenment. Why did the alien not teach you how to meditate, why did the alien not give to you the meaning of life in a way you could convey it to others, why did the alien not give you a method to share with others of how to reach enlightenment?
In some cases they do, but have yet to provide anything new that someone has not written about prior. Thus why some guru's do not disagree with Pleiadean or other et messages. The origin of source is up for debate.

Why would beings come here to share a message of enlightenment when there are plenty of writings on the subject already here, and many people already spreading the gnosis? The fact that there is supposed alien intervention at this point, seems to me like a trap, as its never been difficult to find inspiration on earth.

But the real reason why I think there are what we would perceive as malevolent beings out there, is because the interactions Ive had with spiritual energies in meditation, have disclosed to me, to always question that which has a form, that which comes saying definitive things of them self. Truly benevolent experiences and entities, ask of you questions that allow you to come to realizations your self, they dont come and just tell you stories of how they are going to save you from the evil ones etc, that teaches you nothing but of lofty thoughts and concepts.

Im not denying positive enlightened beings contacting people, I am just saying there are probably malevolent ones in there as well using the real positive experiences as a confusing smokescreen to convey their own agenda. Beware of the great deception no?

Its not going to be easy to figure out what the great deception is, it is going to require you understand how to traverse the consciousness on a level beyond that which may be deemed as 3-d or typical human experience. That is the point, to find a way to look at this reality from above, so as to not fall for deceptive agendas of below.



posted on Sep, 1 2008 @ 05:15 PM
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I agree, to me it seems that most of the bad press the alien phenomenons get has it's low frequency origins in our low frequency society. I am pretty sure the last things the elites want is people getting a crash course in loving civilization from a more advanced society that would bypass all the ordo ab chaos crap they have unloaded on us for centuries. It would change the world in a week.

As it is, they are having a hard enough time trying to keep us from raising our own frequency by ourselves...



posted on Sep, 1 2008 @ 05:31 PM
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What about if all this is absolute nonsense and aliens don't exist. . ? What about if they're really the black ops guys in disguise! ?

I'll just go and stand up against the wall and put on my blindfold.
"Ready, Aim...FIRE!



posted on Sep, 1 2008 @ 06:04 PM
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I appreciate your opinion. I will submit mine.

I would tend to consider the trust of an Alien species to be defined and extended on a case by case basis. Perhaps even on and individuals case by case basis as it is possible to conceive that an alien’s race who’s motives as a whole are benevolent, but contain certain members of their community that may have personal motives outside the collective and mutual objectives. “Good people in general but have a bad uncle in there somewhere.”

I am fond of the term, “trust through verification”, and would reserve my trust to those who would earn it and maintain it.

I believe it would be a grave mistake to simply trust a species on blind faith or on the notion that they “could take us all if they really wanted to” type of rhetoric. I also think it would be equally as irresponsible to make a negative assumption against a visitor without having due course to act as such.

I think one of the things we might need to consider would be some sort of amendment to our laws that give any intelligent visitor certain rights to live in peace and guidelines to follow as to not violate our sovereignty.

Just my thoughts on the matter.



posted on Sep, 1 2008 @ 06:14 PM
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Wow, I can't believe this OP made 8 pages!

My 2c: Anyone who thinks as the OP has not encountered a Grey, or any other of the plentiful malevolent beings that densly populate worlds interlacing ours.

Personally, I don't go for the 'outer space' traveller idea - although I accept as a possibility that ET exists in our 3D universe, it seems like a bit of a red herring and those that are looking to the skies for ET are missing the point.

I have little doubt however, that there are a great number (billions) of entities existing in mirror worlds which intertwine our precious 3D. Some entities appear benevolent, kind and helpful, some malevolent and downright terrifying, and most appear fairly benign - at least in my rather limited experience, although I am but a rookie traveller and not claiming to have journeyed very far.


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posted on Sep, 1 2008 @ 06:28 PM
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Man that was funny ... I larfed and larfed ...

' ... you go first ... ' hahahahah

super, well done.



posted on Sep, 1 2008 @ 06:40 PM
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The OP, I believe, quotes the spiritual leader Raël of the International Raëlian Movement. Nearly 30 years ago he said the same thing: that when a civilization becomes able to leave their solar system they have overcome the 'progress-destructive' cycle - that phrase, specifically.



posted on Sep, 1 2008 @ 06:49 PM
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Originally posted by Rosen
spiritual leader Raël


Rael; another well intentioned nut-job messiah wanna-be who believes he's channeling all-knowing alien beings - sheesh, I thought we'd past that stuff back in the 80' and 90's with the Seth garbage and other 'conversation with god' junk



posted on Sep, 1 2008 @ 07:05 PM
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posted on Sep, 1 2008 @ 07:13 PM
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juast a thought but, the dog in your avatar is it in a pot? like 'a stewin?

or is it a happy lil fella thatsa tired himeself out?



posted on Sep, 1 2008 @ 07:16 PM
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He's just chillin


Sorry, a one liner - oh, now it isn't!



posted on Sep, 1 2008 @ 07:32 PM
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i just don't buy this alien are our friends bull***.

if they are friendly why would they abduct people and mutilate cattle?

why would they release one of their "pets" to do their dirty work? ( i'm talking about the real chupa cabras here ,not the coyote that was killed in texas that was supposed to be a chupa)


if they are friendly why trading human beings for tech with our governments? are our lifes theirs? do we belong to them? says who?


i doubt their intentions, i dont know what their agenda is or what do they want but something tells me their are up to no good. (the greys and reptilians of course).



posted on Sep, 1 2008 @ 08:01 PM
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Originally posted by Tattoo1377
Hi!
I just wanted to shed some light on the topic of alien motives, to refute certain stigmas, and to flat out tell the religous fanatics who think they are demons or that they are evil... You Are Wrong!

First, let me share with you a Universal law that supports why they love us, and are benevolent.

When a species is capable of leaving it's own solar system it means that it has overcome the 'progress-destruction cycle' that can occur when mastery of it's own aggressive tendencies is lacking. At the same time a species discovers powerful energy sources allowing travel beyond their own solar system, they also become capable of creating offensive weapons of irreversible destructive power.
This is a form of natural selection. Only those species who perfectly control their aggressiveness can reach this stage. The others will self destruct from misuse of this technology.

This means, that anyone visiting us from outer space is indeed peaceful.
This also refutes all claims anyone makes concerning malevolent aliens.

To those of you who quote scripture and say that ET's are fallen angels, you are wrong, and you should replace your paranoia and fear with more positive energy such as love and hope. Your beliefs are antiquated, as is your perception of visitors. The most primitive stance anyone can have is fear of someone because it is different. Fear breeds violence.

Many of you already know the ET's are benevolent, and probably understand the real source of danger is not from them, but from us. Please sound off here, to to show others that it is ok to embrace the future, and even better to do so. The sooner we are able to raise the global conciousness, the sooner we can interact with them, and begin a new age for mankind. The cosmic age!

Peace

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i see one major flaw in your thinking. What about raw materials? We have an abundance of raw materials but already in our short history have we began to run out of some i.e. fossil fuels. Noting that they would be beyond fossil fuels is irrelevant they still wouldnt be able to just poof some iron into exsistance or create hydrogen or O2, what would they do when they reach a critical state of need, meaning what if they run out of raw materials and our little rock just happens to have what they need.... you think some super intellegent pan-galatic civilization would ask us insignifigant humans to share our resources or do you think theyd just squash the oposition and take what they want? id say there are peaceful aliens and "evil" aliens just like there are peaceful and evil humans..... good and evil being completely subjective terms of course



posted on Sep, 1 2008 @ 08:11 PM
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I don't buy the theory that all alien races are friendly. I believe there are many civilizations in our galaxy at different stages of development. From very primative to billions of years ahead of us.
In one or two hundred years, we will probably have a propulsion system capable of interstellar flight and I think we will still be an aggressive civilization in one or two hundred years?
My point is: Why can't there be another aggressive civilization out there a few hundreds years ahead of us with interstellar spacecraft. I don't believe they are all friendly, but I hope I am wrong.

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posted on Sep, 1 2008 @ 08:19 PM
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The universe is likely full of materials. In our own asteroid belt there is an abundance of ores.

Plus advanced technology might be able to manipulate energy and matter so they become interchangeable.

I don't see scarcity factoring in to advanced civilizations, but again, just an opinion, one which I reserve the right to change if knowledge forces me to



posted on Sep, 1 2008 @ 08:20 PM
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I included a variety of research, testimonies showing the different types of visitors, and some of the interactions they've had with us. The point is, to have a theory (even a good one) and then to ignore and discredit the mountain of testimonies that don't fit into the theory, doesn't serve anyone who is trying to piece together a large puzzle of current, and even some history to this phenomenon. Those who are witnesses talk about telepathy being the norm for communication. It stands to reason that any race that has developed this ability would have a more uniform planet, or live more cooperatively. This does not exclude races or individuals who align themselves to control and those who have higher agendas. Testimonies show both, or rather the seemingly good, the seemingly bad, and the ones in between.



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