CELOX -- is it in your First Ait Kit?, page
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Topic started on 30-8-2008 @ 09:37 PM by MystikMushroom
In a sit-X situation -- we may be faced by rebellious neighbors, hell-bent on survival.

In the event that a peaceful member is shot (lets say the upper leg) -- how would a friend/companion apply first-aid and stop any arterial bleeding?

I have been first-aid certified, as well as CPR certified -- but I cannot see myself containing an arterial wound without medic/hospital assistance.

A blood-stopper agent seems to be the best product to provide immediate life-saving assistance to a fallen friend/family member.

Celox seems to be the answer.



CELOX™ is a new high performance hemostatic material. It is a proprietary marine biopolymer designed to control high-volume arterial bleeding. CELOX™ is suitable for many applications, from deep arterial bleeds to superficial wounds.


CELOX Link

Gunshots, lacerations...uncontrolled bleeding can mean the difference between life and death.

Simple pressure and gauze cannot always save a life until more competent medical personnel can be contacted (via short wave radio or social networks).

It would seem that this product is being tested/used by our own military -- why should we not also as civilians also explore this product?

After suffering a devastating chin laceration a week ago -- I can attest to the fact that loss of blood can put one into shock -- or worse.

A prudent, well-thought-out first aid and "trauma" kit should be paramount for all those who wish to survive a "Sit-X"

I ask for all opinions upon this product, is it worth including?

[edit on 30-8-2008 by MystikMushroom]


reply posted on 31-8-2008 @ 12:40 AM by EyesWideShut
Buy Quick Clot here

If you are around firearms , this needs to be in your kit

[edit on 31-8-2008 by EyesWideShut]



reply posted on 31-8-2008 @ 06:24 PM by MystikMushroom
reply to post by anxietydisorder



Very good info! Star to you my friend!!!

As you said, both are easily available -- and, compact and lightweight.

I think for X-mass I'm going to ask my folks for a really, really complete first aid kit (like a 2-3 hundred dollar one)...

Something like this:

Sweet First Aid Kit on Ebay...

Like I said above -- I've been red-cross first aid certified -- as well as CPR certified. I'm also an Eagle Scout and know how to treat injury well....if I have the materials to do so that is.



[edit on 31-8-2008 by MystikMushroom]


reply posted on 1-9-2008 @ 04:47 AM by MystikMushroom
reply to post by anxietydisorder



Excellent advice/knowledge!

*nods*

Such trauma wounds are better left "as-is" and under control until a competent surgical/trained doctor can be found.

However, in a Sit-X ....a surgical team/hospital might not be available.

Being trained, and having the proper gear on-hand might not only save your own life -- but that of your closest of kin.

In Alaska where I reside -- earthquakes are a primary natural disaster concern. Being cut-off from medics and hospitals with severe lacerations and bone-fractures are a concern to myself.

Perhaps my Eagle Scout training is making me paranoid -- the "be prepared" motto is deeply rooted....

[edit on 1-9-2008 by MystikMushroom]


reply posted on 7-9-2008 @ 07:26 PM by Anonymous ATS
reply to post by MystikMushroom



It's going to be vital that you use your current level of training and acquire additional advanced level training (through formal certs - EMT, EMT-P, RN, etc) or informal sources such as books and CME.

Remember, in the most extreme survival situations there will not be a large distinction between a CPR card and an EMT-Paramedic license.

If in a "clan" type situation, you'll be required to use ANY knowledge and supplies you have, to the best of your ability, to save someone's life.

I would greatly recommend spending 70-80 dollars and getting a basic-EMT text book. The life saving interventions you will learn could easily be the thin line between life and death.

Best of luck!

Walt- Paramedic
Morgantown, WV


reply posted on 8-9-2008 @ 12:02 AM by DeusEx
If you do not know what you are doing, hemostatic agents can kill a person. Please, for the love of God, refrain from things like jamming a tampon in a bullet wound. Yeah, it works...sorta...I guess. Jamming a tampon in an open wound (especially arterial) is a last resort, and is in no way a substitute for things like, oh...properly packing the wound with gauze. Use of a tourniquet and use of a pressure bandage (Israeli for the win!) are also must-have skills, and well ahead of tamponing a GSW.

Quikclot

Kit is a way to help make a job easier, not a substitute for skills you SHOULD have. Basics of packing a wound (warning: just a tad graphic):

Packing a Wound

Know what you're doing, troops. Civvie medicine and military medicine are different, and survival medicine is an entirely different animal. Packing a wound with gauze is horrendously painful, and generally not a part of civvie medicine unless you're dealing with a GSW. Learn the differences between the three, and keep them in mind.

DE
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