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Originally posted by dalek
I don't know if this has been mentioned already but wont a prison create jobs, jobs that will create housing and economy in the local area and therefore increase the population of the town?
As for the idea of safety.
With dez all around theres only one place where escapee can go and the town will hopefully have a good reaction force to welcome the jail breaker once they receive the call.
The end of Rachel as we know it has been sealed today. Greed and ignorance once again triumphed over common sense. The Rachel prison was approved by the Lincoln County planning commission today. The developer, Jim Toreson, and his mini-me, county planning director Clint Wertz, who have both publicly declared that they do not care about the people of Rachel, did not even have to try very hard. The prospect of $1M in tax revenue for the county was all the comission heard. Not the pleas of 15 concerned residents of Rachel, not the warnings that the county is taken for a ride by an unscrupulous developer, not the concerns voiced by a representative of Nellis AFB, not even the safety concerns of their own Sheriff. Money rules, and so this insanity will become a reality. Over the next 18 months, a 100-acre, 1500-inmate medium security prison will be built only 4 miles from Rachel. And those of you who like to visit the area because of its dark night skies, the safe and unspoiled environment, the remote-ness, the friendly people around here or for whatever other reasen, might as well start looking for new places to visit. That is, if this madness is not stopped. We, the residents of Rachel, who settled here looking forward to retire in a safe and unspoiled environment, will not give up without a fight. We will appeal today's decision, hoping that eventually resaon will win.
Well, I am not an expert in these things, but it is my understanding that yesterday's vote of the Planning Commission was the final ok for Toreson. The Commission heard the recommendation of Planning Director Clint Wertz for approval with minor conditions, and accepted it in an open vote with 4 against 2. One member of the commission abstained, because her husband works for Mr. Toreson. We can now appeal the decision, but in the meantime Mr. Toreson is free to get his project started. And he left no doubt that he does not intend to waste any time. As I said in another reply in this thread, the sheriff is not really against the prison. I am sorry if I created the wrong impression. He simply presented the Commission with thuthful answers to their questions. A lot of those answers just were not very favorable for the prison. Such as the need for two resident sheriffs deputies in Rachel if this goes through, the "qualification" for a job as private prison guard (a GED, not more!) and the fact that out of three current murder investigations in Ely, two of them are in the prison there.
Really not much. None of the members of the County Planning Commission knew much about private prisons, and at the time the conditions were discussed the public was not allowed to speak to correct some of the blatant lies Toreson presented to them. Very conveniently, Toresons attorney was the last one to speak, and he basically told the commission that they would be sued if they denied the request, but that they really could not be held liable later if they approved it and it failed. Don't underestimate Toreson. This is his last hurrah, and he is going all in. The conditions were basically to give him 18 months, and to reduce the number of inmates to 1500, which is still on the high end of existing prisons. The representative from Nellis requested a condition to be put in that they can not complain about noise etc. from the war games later, and that they must take adequate measures to noise-proof the facility.
The residents of Rachel lost the first round in their fight to keep a private prison out of their community of fewer than 100 people. Now, they might not be able to afford to fight the second round. Little A'Le'Inn owner Connie West sits outside her bar, restaurant and gift shop recently in Rachel, where residents have until Monday to come up with the money to appeal the Planning Commission's decision on a private prison. Leila Navidi Little A'Le'Inn owner Connie West sits outside her bar, restaurant and gift shop recently in Rachel, where residents have until Monday to come up with the money to appeal the Planning Commission's decision on a private prison. Sun Topics * Area 51 Sun Archives * Editorial: A terrible idea (9-14-2008) * The home they love, for now (9-7-2008) Beyond the Sun * Nevada Department of Corrections The Lincoln County Planning Commission has approved a permit for a prison near the town that has earned pop culture cachet for claims of alien sightings and its proximity to Area 51, the government testing facility long shrouded in secrecy.
The prison industry complex is one of the fastest-growing industries in the United States and its investors are on Wall Street. “This multimillion-dollar industry has its own trade exhibitions, conventions, websites, and mail-order/Internet catalogs. It also has direct advertising campaigns, architecture companies, construction companies, investment houses on Wall Street, plumbing supply companies, food supply companies, armed security, and padded cells in a large variety of colors.”
Contract awarded to Halliburton subsidiary KBR. ARLINGTON, Va.–(BUSINESS WIRE)–Jan. 24, 2006–KBR announced today that the Department of Homeland Security’s (DHS) U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) component has awarded KBR an Indefinite Delivery/Indefinite Quantity (IDIQ) contingency contract to support ICE facilities in the event of an emergency. KBR is the engineering and construction subsidiary of Halliburton (NYSE:HAL). With a maximum total value of $385 million over a five-year term, consisting of a one-year based period and four one-year options, the competitively awarded contract will be executed by the U.S. Army Corps of Engineers, Fort Worth District. KBR held the previous ICE contract from 2000 through 2005.
Originally posted by Anonymous ATS
This will never happen and I can't figure out why all the people here and on dreamlandresort.com who claim they live in Rachel (when they still live and work in Vegas) are still acting like their world is going to end. The folks here in town should be able to figure it out but I think it's the only thing they've had to complain about in a long time and it's getting them some publicitiy and well ... it's Rachel. The one limiting factor that will kill this idea just like it killed Lincoln Estates is lack of infrastucture. The power line that carries power to Rachel is at it's peak and can't handle any more. If you buy a lot in town that doesn't have power you can't get any and have to make it yourself ... it's a Co-OP. The cost of restringing the existing line or running a new high power line is more than anyone could afford. The average price of high tension line for Nevada in 2006 was $1.9 million dollars per mile (per MILE!!) ... who's going to pay that to get more power to the not even-close-to-thriving metropolis of Rachel? Since hayfields require not only electrical power that isn't available the reason he'll never put in center pivot irrigation for alfalfa is he doesn't own the water rights to go with his land. He will also never put in a Solar Field to generate power. Why you ask; the same reason he can't get electricity ... no wires to bring power in so he can't sell power he makes because he has no way to export it. As for Mr Torgeson this idea is only slightly dumber than the fact he bought land in Rachel. I hate to say it but Glen Campbell is right ... don't get your UFO watchin' panties in a knot, this will never happen in Rachel.