In my opinion this case is rubbish. These so called experts that "agreed" to analyze the photos, they probable had some kind of a motive in doing so. And then it is concluded by them by simply analyzing the photos that the ships are made of plasma... Uh huh, yes sure they can tell what a supposed space ship is made of by looking at a picture of a fuzzy object.

And then this you're destroying the planet thing, sounds like more of the tree hugging agenda. Why travel huge distances and tell this to a single guy in a middle of nowhere that has no power of changing anything? Sounds like these "aliens" need to have a chat with world leaders instead.

don't remember if I already posted in this thread, but I just got 'Ships of Light' ... the second movie about Carlos Diaz case. It deals a LOT more with the actual photo/video evidence from carlos, as well as other witnesses. It's a cool movie, and a really good watch. Before you pass judgement on this man, watch BOTH of these movies. Really great stuff.

Thanks for the topic, OP!! Good find, as I'd never heard of his case before!

*thumbs up*

I read all of the replies and the videos must be legit since all debunkers can do is just say whatever they want without any evidence showing that this is false.

The problems with skeptics is that nothing is proof to them, even when the proof is not a proven hoax.

A video is REAL at the moment that is shown until proven fake; if you have no proof that is fake, so it must be real.

How can I prove that my video is real when the proof itself is the video?
When some one is taking a video of a ufo, that person is not thinking at the same time how to prove that what he is filming is real? Only hoaxers do that!!

Plenty of videos are not proven a hoax, so they are real even if they are hoaxes!
If I take a video of some one killing a person, the suspect has to prove its innocence but I don't have to prove that the video is real for the video speak for itself.

There are many hoaxes, many videos proven to be fake and that is when we say that we are wrong about that video. Skeptics NEVER admit the validity of a video even if it's never proven to be fake.

When people say that we have no proof of alien visitation I just have to laugh. There are MANY proof of alien visitation but skeptic just don't see it that way.

If you are going to ask me to show you proof, I would have to say that they have been shown here plenty of time but you, yet again, consider them FAKE!

There are more proof in ancient history about ETs that there are in modern history!

[edit on 9/9/2008 by thegrayone]

Originally posted by Lecter
In my opinion this case is rubbish. These so called experts that "agreed" to analyze the photos, they probable had some kind of a motive in doing so. And then it is concluded by them by simply analyzing the photos that the ships are made of plasma... Uh huh, yes sure they can tell what a supposed space ship is made of by looking at a picture of a fuzzy object.

And then this you're destroying the planet thing, sounds like more of the tree hugging agenda. Why travel huge distances and tell this to a single guy in a middle of nowhere that has no power of changing anything? Sounds like these "aliens" need to have a chat with world leaders instead.

Just like skeptics can tell you, by looking a fuzzy video, that it is a weather balloon, a natural phenomenon or simply your mind playing tricks with you...aaahhh...it must be a flying rock...

Originally posted by Lecter

And then this you're destroying the planet thing, sounds like more of the tree hugging agenda. Why travel huge distances and tell this to a single guy in a middle of nowhere that has no power of changing anything? Sounds like these "aliens" need to have a chat with world leaders instead.

Lecter,

Perhaps they have tried to 'chat' with world leaders, and found them to be less responsive to their ideas, as more than likely, anything they would ask of the leaders would topple the current industrial-war-machine's control over the general population. If I were to flip the story, and I were the 'alien' attempting to help heal a dying world, enslaved by its leaders... I would immediately start trying to contact the general public, as opposed to those leaders. That's just me, however. I don't know how an 'alien' thinks, and neither do you. So I'm sorry if this doesn't come off so politely, but, if you don't have anything actually CONSTRUCTIVE to add to the conversation, READ MORE, AND POST LESS.



*edit*

Change has to start somewhere. One man CAN cause change. One domino, upon being pushed over, will affect the next, and so on, and so on. Mr. Diaz already HAS started change. He doesn't ask for any money for anything. He provides his pictures, and video's free. He's not looking to do anything, but open people's eyes to the reality of this event/area. I implore you to watch the second movie, 'Ships of Light', as it contains more of his photographic evidence, AS WELL AS evidence from over 50 different witnesses, in different areas of the city. He came forward to the host of mexico's '60 Minutes', who provided him with a video camera to try to capture more objects. After Diaz returned with the footage, the host ended up asking on-air if any viewers had seen anything on the night in question... 50 people almost immediately responded, all with pictures. Up to the point of filming this movie, they had collected 1500 cases of eyewitness accounts, as well as picture, and video evidence. 12,000 people in his city saw the same craft, on one night in particular, and around his city, UFO's are KNOWN to frequent the area.

one last time, READ MORE, AND POST LESS.

[edit on 1-9-2008 by jephers0n]

Thx for posting the links
the videos were intriguing for the first 5 then it went into pure pius religious save the planet mode (a worthy cause indd) but i don't need his lights to tell me that .

Because this fella is the sole contactee and witness during these light-fests,
HE and HE alone can prophesize what the hell they are about and their "MESSAGE to the world" and that gives him a position of power to the viewer.


boost him up enough and i bet he wouldn't mind being called
POPE Calvin Hobbs the First

peace all

[edit on 1-9-2008 by dalek]

sry double post








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