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posted on Aug, 30 2008 @ 01:42 PM
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Georgia oil wars linked to Saudi Arabia oil billionaires & 911 perps & Deutsche Bank & Alex Brown (Bros Harriman)

(1st remember-#1)--Saudi Arabia & its oil billionaires are a front for FED/City-of-London Jewish & Christian & Moslem international bankers & "oil counter-revolutionary operatives"

(2nd remember-#2)--since FED/City-of-London intelligence operatives co-founded Saudi Arabia with terrorist warlord Saud family.

(3rd remember-#3)--Enron was cutting deals w/Taliban for trans-Eurasia oil pipeline

www.abovetopsecret.com...
Two billionaire Saudi families watched by authorities for ties to Osama bin Laden's terrorist network engaged in major oil deals w/leading U.S. corporations. -bin Mahfouz & Al-Amoudi clans control 3 private Saudi Arabian oil companies, & are partners w/U. S. firms in oil development & pipeline projects in central & south Asia
Working thru their companies - Delta Oil, Nimir Petroleum & Corral Petroleum - Saudi families have formed international consortiums w/U. S. oil giants Texaco, Unocal, Amerada Hess & Frontera Resources.- bin Mahfouz & Al-Amoudi, have denied involvement w/bin Laden, & left untouched by U. S. Treasury Dept,
- closeness of two clans underlined by their joint oil venture, Delta-Nimir, & partnership in Saudi firm Marei Bin Mahfouz & Ahmed Al Amoudi Group of Companies & Factories. - Al-Amoudi's lawyers in Washington,: Akin, Gump, Strauss, Hauer & Feld,
bin Mahfouz & Al-Amoudi oil companies continued to profit w/working relationship w/America's oil elite. --Mahfouz family, thru Nimir Petroleum, joined w/Texaco to develop oil fields in Kazakhstan estimated to contain 1.5 billion barrels of oil.
--Al-Amoudi family, thru Delta Oil, teamed up w/Amerada Hess to develop oil fields in Azerbaijan. Delta-Hess part of consortium hoping to build 2.4 billion dollar oil pipeline from Azerbaijan to Turkey.
--mid-1990s, Delta Oil formed partnership w/Unocal in failed bid to build oil & gas pipelines from Turkmenistan to Arabian Sea.
-- 1994, Delta-Nimir, joint venture of Al-Amoudi & bin Mahfouz families, joined w/Unocal in consortium to develop 3 oil fields in Azerbaijan. 1996, Delta-Nimir & Unocal closed second oil development deal in Azerbaijan.
ref: ibid

www.abovetopsecret.com...
funneled money from National Commercial to Al Qaeda -- 2 Saudi government agencies bought 50% of National Commercial in 1999. other half owned by several shareholders including Mahfouz family, which gave up majority ownership to government.
Qadi on list of 39 individuals & groups accused by U.S. Treasury Dept of financing Osama bin Laden & Al Qaeda. bin Mahfouz family, suspected of shipping millions of dollars to exiled terrorist as recently as 3 years ago. alleged links between Bin Mahfouz family estimated fortune of Pounds 2.5 billion, & Bin Laden money network severe embarrassment to Saudi rulers. -- Bin Mahfouz family a most successful trading clan in Middle East.

www.abovetopsecret.com...
BCCI-bin Mahfouz-bin Laden Boston Herald, December 11, 2001
[1] Burson-Marsteller, major D.C. public relations firm, registered w/U.S. government as foreign agent for Saudi embassy within weeks of Sept. 11 terror attacks.
[2] powerful Washington, D.C., law firm w/close ties to White House earned hefty fees representing Saudi billionaires & Texas-based Islamic charity fingered as terrorist front.
[3] law firm, Akin, Gump, Strauss, Hauer & Feld represented three wealthy Saudi businessmen - Khalid bin Mahfouz, Mohammed Hussein Al-Amoudi & Salah Idris - who have been scrutinized by U.S. authorities for possible involvement in financing Osama bin Laden & his terrorist network.
Partners at Akin, Gump include one of President Bush's closest Texas friends, James C. Langdon, & George R. Salem, a Bush fund-raiser who chaired his 2000 campaign's outreach to Arab-Americans.
[4] In addition to royal family, firm's Saudi clients included bin Mahfouz, who hired Akin, Gump when he indicted in BCCI banking scandal in early 1990s. former chief of counter-intelligence at CIA said political influence of firm like Akin, Gump is why Saudis hire them. Idris hired Akin, Gump during Clinton presidency, when Clinton confidante Vernon Jordan a partner at firm.

Public relations, buying influence, Hill & Knowlton, Burson-Marsteller: Turkey's Washington public relations & lobbying firm, Hill & Knowlton. chronic human rights abusers, China, Peru, Israel, Egypt, & Indonesia, retained Hill & Knowlton as did repressive Duvalier regime in Haiti.
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www.abovetopsecret.com...—summary of p22 posts Deutsche Bank – Alex Brown - Krongard
Bormann NWO Conspiracy leading to wtc/911 --- Deutsche Bank/Alex Brown is American investing banking arm of German giant, Deutsche Bank, & used to purchase ‘put’ options on United Airlines stock immediately prior to & during WTC/911, & Alex Brown bank previously chaired by former exec dir of CIA, ‘Buzzy’ Krongard. A.B. Deutche Bank – AB Brown – Bankers Trust Brown was acquired by Banker’s Trust in 1997, became vice chairman when firms merged into Banker’s Trust/AB Brown. Banker’s Trust/A.B. Brown. Banker’s Trust acquired by Deutche Bank in 1999, to form single largest bank in Europe. Mayo Shattuck III, head of Brown/Deutche Bank involved in Enron Mayo Shattuck III, head of Brown/Deutche Bank on 911, involved in Enron, in conceal massive debt & involved in insider trading scam w/Adnan Khashoggi’s ‘Genesis Intermedia’ just before 911. midway in 3-year, 30 million dollar contract as head of Alex Brown when attacks came, under his mgt, illegal trades on United Airlines placed. [editor’s note: Lost in endless volleys about WTC7 collapse, & what Larry Silverstein might have really meant by "pull it", is: Krongard-Deutsche Bank A.B. "Buzzy" Krongard who worked for Deutsche Bank-A.B. Brown, firm accused of handling huge spike in shorting of stock on AA & United, put options ("bets" that these stocks would fall) 1-3 days prior to 9-11. WSJ reported it. Congress & DoJ declined to investigate. [Source: Herzliyya International Policy Institute for Counterterrorism (ICT) (Israel)] Krongard-CIA
Krongard was appointed by DCI George Tenet on March 16, 2001 to serve in newly created role of Exec Dir of CIA. Krongard later advocated amnesty for Bin Laden, & Bush agreed that Bin Laden is not important. Krongard-Blackwater Now "Buzzy" consults for Blackwater, while his brother Howard "Cookie" Krongard is IG over at State, obstructing Blackwater investigation. House Oversight & Gov't Reform Cmte. Hearing on State Dept. Inspector General (from Mike Ruppert's 'from wilderness' site & from an Israeli think-tank (probably Mossad-related) report. (Plus Cheney & Bush & FBI stopped O’Neill’s investigation of bin Laden before WTC/911) JUST AFTER WTC/911-SHATTUCK RESIGNS Sept 15, 2001, New York Times reported Mayo Shattuck III resigned, effective immediately, as head of Alex Brown (A.B.) unit of Deutsche Bank previously run by Krongard.




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posted on Aug, 30 2008 @ 02:03 PM
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about the claim in thread title: ... & 911 perps


you cite the same ATS thread as the source for all the business dealings,
then go on to infer that 'Al Qaeda' was the other funded party in the mess.

thereby saying 'AQ' , & i guess Shiekh Mohammad, was the lead mastermind, just as the US Justice claims.

What i'd like to have explained is where the Saudi financed radical sect of Wahabbi Islam fit in.... since all the perps of 911 were affiliated one time or another with the Saudi sponsered Wahabbi (spelling?).
the US state department keeps that info squelched.

Two books:
the great game & the grand chessboard, outlined all those central asian intrigues about Western/USA domination of all those oil & energy resources in the Caspian basin.


thanks,



posted on Aug, 30 2008 @ 02:19 PM
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Originally posted by counterterrorist
(1st remember-#1)--Saudi Arabia & its oil billionaires are a front for FED/City-of-London Jewish & Christian & Moslem international bankers & "oil counter-revolutionary operatives"


Doesn't make sense.


Originally posted by counterterrorist
(2nd remember-#2)--since FED/City-of-London intelligence operatives co-founded Saudi Arabia with terrorist warlord Saud family.


City of London intelligence operatives?


I don't think there's any such group.


Originally posted by counterterrorist
(3rd remember-#3)--Enron was cutting deals w/Taliban for trans-Eurasia oil pipeline


Be nice to see some proof on that.


Originally posted by counterterrorist
[1] Burson-Marsteller, major D.C. public relations firm, registered w/U.S. government as foreign agent for Saudi embassy within weeks of Sept. 11 terror attacks.


So?


Originally posted by counterterrorist
Public relations, buying influence, Hill & Knowlton, Burson-Marsteller: Turkey's Washington public relations & lobbying firm, Hill & Knowlton. chronic human rights abusers, China, Peru, Israel, Egypt, & Indonesia, retained Hill & Knowlton as did repressive Duvalier regime in Haiti.


What does this have to do with 9/11?



posted on Aug, 30 2008 @ 02:38 PM
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note-- this reply bombed so I have to reconstruct it

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posted on Aug, 30 2008 @ 02:57 PM
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thanks for the book sources, I'll check them out.

Originally posted by St Udio
about the claim in thread title: ... & 911 perps
you cite the same ATS thread as the source for all the business dealings,
then go on to infer that 'Al Qaeda' was the other funded party in the mess.


Did you read the source(s)? Each url link you go to may have many more add'l ATS links as documentation.


What i'd like to have explained is where the Saudi financed radical sect of Wahabbi Islam fit in.... since all the perps of 911 were affiliated one time or another with the Saudi sponsered Wahabbi (spelling?).
the US state department keeps that info squelched.


www.abovetopsecret.com...
themes: 18th Century Sunni philosopher, Mohammad ibn Abd al-Wahhab took over what’s now Saudi Arabia, where Islam-outlawed ‘Wahhabism’ sect that leads Saudi Arabian repression. ref: ‘Secret War Against Jews; by Loftus & Aarons- Loftus www.john-loftus.com...

www.abovetopsecret.com...
GOP Wahhabi-Al Taqwa/Al Qaeda connections – Karl Rove Islamo-fascist coordinator within GOP

www.abovetopsecret.com...
(9) UNDERGROUND REICH & WTC/911 & MUSLIM BROTHERHOOD & 2012
Jihad for Freedom & Saudi/Islamo-fascist influence in U.S.A. – Jimmy Carter & ‘energy conservation’ – O’Neill’s 911 investigation sabotaged by Saudi oil connections – 1980 Bush oil scam – Republican/Wahhabi Axis in Camp David Peace Talks – Yassar Arafat walks out when Bush names Cheney vice president running mate – James Baker & Dick Cheney – Baker’s Dozen – Israel’s Prime Minister Ehud Barak – Yasser Arafat protégé of Odessa Chief Otto Skorzeny – Likud Party – Saudi/underground reich & Otto Von Bolschwing

www.abovetopsecret.com...
themes; Islam-outlawed extremist cult of Wahhibism/Muslim Brotherhbood/ al Qaeda home-grown, nurtured & financed in Saudi Arabia -- Oil Price Rise Causes Global Shift in Wealth -- Iran, Russia & Venezuela Feel Benefits

www.abovetopsecret.com...
MOHAMMED ATTA at the TERRORIST MOTEL (cont) -- CARL DUISBERG GESELLSCHAFFT --terrorist ringleader Mohamed Atta was part of ‘joint venture’ between U.S. & German Governments Bormann NWO Fourth Reich in South America ... Tri-Border Area stronghold colony of Muslim Brotherhood aka al Qaeda..

Tri-Border Area-where Brazil, Paraguay & Argentina meet

www.abovetopsecret.com...
BORMANN ORG/FOURTH REICH/NWO/2012
subj: Tri-Border Area (cont)
theme: from "Terrorism’s New Geography", by Sebastian Junger, in Vanity Fair, Dec 2002
excerpt: ...development of Triple Border area of Latin America as operational epicenter for terrorist groups. In addition to Islamist groups such as Al Qaeda & Hezbollah, region has become base for neo-Nazi operatives, & groups from Europe.
-- junction of Argentina, Brazil & Paraguay & proximity of three corrupt countries hotbed of criminal activity & operational liaison between Al Qaeda & neo-Nazi elements.

Hezbollah & Hamas cells integrated themselves into tightly knit Muslim community. huge amount of money funneled back to Lebanon to support cause.

AL QAEDA PROMOTIONAL VIDEOS -- Barakat escaped raid, but in office police found scores of al-Qaeda promotional video for extremists in Triple Border. Carlos Calcena, Paraguayan prosecutor tracked tens of thousands of dollars in money transfers from Iquique, Chile, to Ciudad del Este, to Chase Manhattan bank account in name of “Mr. Barakat’ in Long Island City, NY.
90-page Library of Congress report: TERRORIST & ORGANIZED CRIME GROUPS IN TRI-BORDER AREA (TBA) OF SOUTH AMERICA www.loc.gov...

www.abovetopsecret.com...
subj: Tri-Border Area
theme: "Hezbollah Finances: Funding Party of God— www.justice.gov.il...
excerpt: In South America, Hezbollah operatives engage in criminal enterprises to raise, transfer, & launder funds in support of their terrorist activities: mafia-style shakedowns of local Arab communities, import-export scams w/traders from India & Hong Kong, & small-scale businesses w/a few thousand dollars of business but transfer tens of thousands of dollars around globe. tri-border area important to Hezbollah, raises $10,000,000 year, according study by U.S.A. Naval War College.
Hezbollah activities in Latin America not limited to tri-border area. Chilean officials identified import-export companies in free trade zones Iquique Free Trade Zone (ZOFRI) in northern Chile, serving as front organizations or shell companies for Hezbollah: Kalmiar Ltd, Bahamas Ltd., Las Vegas Nevada Ltd., San Francisco Ltd., Saleh Trading Ltd., Frankfort Ltd., Guaranty Ltd., Teen Chile Ltd., & Lucky Crown Ltd.
US Naval War College, “US Southern Command estimates Islamist terrorist groups raise 300 million & 500 million dollars per year in Triple Frontier (Tri-Border Area) & duty-free zones of Iquique, Colon, Maicao, & Margarita Island.”
Hezbollah members in Venezuela—centered in Lebanese expatriate community on Margarita Island—helped several members of Hezbollah cell in Charlotte, North Carolina infiltrate U.S.A. thru Venezuela in 1992. In free trade area of Maicao, Columbia, Hezbollah in cigarette smuggling –
NOTE: re: 'cigarette smuggling', refers to laundering of heroin w/cigarettes, see "No. 3" at "top 3 unknown conspiracies of our lifetimes", at www.abovetopsecret.com...
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hispanicmuslims.com... excerpt: Islam fastest-growing religion in Latin America & Caribbean region. Venezuela, rumors of terrorist camp in Margarita w/16 months of political unrest in Caracas. Syrians, Lebanese & Palestinians began migrating to South America w/decline of Ottoman Empire in 1800s.
Saudi Arabia, founded to spread Islam, financed construction of mosques & Islamic centers in Caracas, Buenos Aires & Brazil, & Foz do Iguaçu on Brazilian side of triple border area. Sheik Ibrahim mosque in Caracas, continent's 2nd largest, built w/funding from Ibrahim bin Abdul Aziz Al Ibrahim Foundation. Saudi royal family established foundation to spread Islam. FBI uncovered ties of foundation to Osama bin Laden while investigating U.S.A. Embassy bombings in Nairobi, Kenya, & Dar es Salaam, Tanzania, 1998.
Saudis built Islamic Center in Buenos Aires,. $25 million complex in upscale neighborhood of Palomar













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posted on Aug, 30 2008 @ 03:43 PM
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I don't see any explanations or commentary, only bunches of keywords strung together. Are you going to explain your theories for the layman?



posted on Aug, 30 2008 @ 03:45 PM
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thanks for your response.


CT: (3rd remember-#3)--Enron was cutting deals w/Taliban for trans-Eurasia oil pipeline

SteveR: Be nice to see some proof on that.


I've put the documentation (proof) at the bottom of the page, because it's so long -- just above the Fed/bank of england/oil company interlocking dirctorate charts.


CT said: (1st remember-#1)--Saudi Arabia & its oil billionaires are a front for FED/City-of-London Jewish & Christian & Moslem international bankers & "oil counter-revolutionary operatives"

SteveR: Doesn't make sense.


1. Saudi Arabia was founded by Allen Dulles and Kim Philby (or his dad, I get them both mixed up) and the warlord, Saud. Previously it was "Arabia" -- Dulles and Philby were both triple-agents that betrayed the U.S., England, and Russia. Dulles supported the interlocking directorate of the Fed. Philby supported the interlocking directorate of the Bank of England. (Philby had a son, both were british spies and soviet spies, as I recall. I get them mixed up.) -- see chart(s) at bottom of page that show fed ownership which overlaps with bank of england ownership who are the bankers that own the oil companies behind the oil war.

2. Dulles represented the bankers that own the Fed, such as Brown Brothers Harriman and Sullivan & Cromwell. The bankers that owned the Bank of England are "THE CROWN aka City-of-London" which is recognized as an independent, sovereign state (just as the Vatican and Knights of Malta are recognized independent and sovereign states.


CT: (2nd remember-#2)--since FED/City-of-London intelligence operatives co-founded Saudi Arabia with terrorist warlord Saud family.

SteveR: City of London intelligence operatives?
I don't think there's any such group.


City of London are the banks that own the Bank of England that own the Fed that own the banks that own the oil companies -- this is extensively documented (will provide documentation here and at the bottom of the post).

The British Empire was about 12% owned by England, and 88% owned by The Crown. England owned the white colonies. Crown owned the non-white (w/the exception of South Africa).


CT: [1] Burson-Marsteller, major D.C. public relations firm, registered w/U.S. government as foreign agent for Saudi embassy within weeks of Sept. 11 terror attacks.

SteveR: So?

CT: Public relations, buying influence, Hill & Knowlton, Burson-Marsteller:

SteveR: What does this have to do with 9/11?


One or both of the p.r. firms represent Saudi Arabia, i.e., the people who control Saudi Arabia, including their oil billionaires -- see original post
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I've supplied the documentation, below. Please read each of the urls, as each url has add'l urls supplied to complete the documentation.

[1]http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread348857/pg23#pid4646163
*****10-post series: Enron pipeline connection to 9/11

[2]http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread348857/pg20#pid4521267
Cheney's ENRON role in 911 stopping FBI investigation of Taliban & al Qaeda
What Congress Does Not Know about Enron & 9/11
May 31, 2002 John Loftus, Al Qaeda document: U.S. energy companies secretly negotiated w/Taliban to build a pipeline.
obtained by FBI but not shared w/other agencies to protect Enron. terrorist investigations hindered while Enron Corporation negotiating w/Taliban.
result of Taliban pipeline cover-up: Taliban’s friends in Al Qaeda able to complete last 8 months of preparations for 9/11 while Enron secrecy block in force.
order to block investigations resulted from Enron’s January 2002 appeal to Vice President Dick Cheney; were 3 previous block orders
2nd block order, in force since 1980’s, against any investigation embarrassing Saudi Royal family.
result of blocks, Saudis able to fund middle eastern terrorists in secrecy
3rd block: prohibition on investigations of Taliban
Jan 2001, Vice President Cheney reinstated intelligence block & expanded it
After O'Neill's investigations shut down by superiors, O'Neill made inquiries to French intelligence
last straw Cheney's refusal to follow up on O'Neill's request to pursue leads in Phoenix memo Apr 2001.
report by Al Qaeda head of military operations, Mohammed Atef, describes Al Qaeda’s view of secret pipeline negotiations between U.S. oil companies & Taliban to build pipeline thru Afghanistan.--www.abovetopsecret.com... and www.john-loftus.com...
shocking pipeline information may explain why O'Neill was fixated about Saudi-Taliban-Al Qaeda relationship.
1970's & 80's, Saudi intelligence (not CIA as reported) funded early Taliban faction & later Al Qaeda as insurgency to throw Russians out of Afghanistan.
afterwards, U.S. energy companies (Enron, as Afghan pipeline consultant for UNOCAL) used Saudi intelligence connection to Taliban to begin negotiations for pipeline across Afghanistan.
Loftus' sources: Prince Turki was pipeline mediator for Enron. Prince Turki fired as head of Saudi intelligence as pipeline discussions collapsed Aug 2001.
Prince Turki close to Bin Laden family which promised construction contract in return for percentage to Saudi Royal family. a common business practice initiated by Carlyle Group's contracts in Saudi Arabia.
President Bush's father’s business partners in Carlyle Group w/Bin Laden family during this period. suspected of arranging construction kickbacks to Saudi royal family for discount oil sales. Crown Prince Abdullah & President Bush can blackmail each other over Taliban pipeline.
Enron purchased huge tracts of land in Caspian basin, in Turkmenistan, property still on their books. acreage enormous & worthless. if Taliban pipeline was built, Enron might’ve owned most valuable oil exploration sites in world & rescued itself from insolvency. Any White House insider who helped Enron would’ve gotten rich. When Bush's son came into office, Enron approached Cheney in late Jan
To Enron's horror, pipeline deal collapsed in August. then 9/11. then Enron collapse. then Cheney cover-up.
Cheney's biggest problem is senior intelligence officials who rebelled & became whistleblowers: Robert Baer of CIA & John O'Neill of FBI.
Cheney not first to block investigations, but last involved w/cover-up.
Bush & Rice may’ve been kept out of loop by Cheney. For example, Cheney, not Rice, who saw Phoenix memo before 9/11 pipeline cover-up could’ve convinced Atef that Al Qaeda could exploit lack of coordinated intelligence against them. Enron cover-up real reason for black hole in U.S. intelligence.

here's Loftus' dossier, qualifying him:

www.john-loftus.com... Loftus held some of highest security clearances in the world, w/ special access to NATO Cosmic, CIA codeword,Top Secret Nuclear files. As a former federal prosecutor, John Loftus had an insider’s knowledge of high level intelligence operations, including obstruction of Congressional investigations. Loftus resigned from the Justice Department in 1981 to expose how the intelligence community had recruited Nazi war criminals and then concealed the files from Congressional subpoena. After appearing on an Emmy Award winning segment of 60 Minutes, Loftus has spent the next two decades writing histories of intelligence cover-ups, and serving as an unpaid lawyer helping other whistleblowers inside US intelligence.


also see: – free online copy of ‘Secrets of Federal Reserve’, by Eustace Mullins www.whale.to... or www.fdrs.org...







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posted on Aug, 30 2008 @ 04:02 PM
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Originally posted by SteveR
I don't see any explanations or commentary, only bunches of keywords strung together. Are you going to explain your theories for the layman?


I've tried to, right here (which is the next post following your comment) www.abovetopsecret.com...

Also, one has to read the urls and also the additional urls within each post. I tend to talk in documentation rather than opinion.

I think the title of the OP explains my premise, and the url's I've provided along with the keywords, are the explantions and documentation for the relevance of the keywords.

If you ask specific questions, as you did before, I'll try to explain, and then provide documentation (as you asked previously for me to document Enron trading with the enemy, aka the Taliban, al Queda, Moslem Brotherhood, and so on -- which I did then provide).



posted on Aug, 30 2008 @ 04:12 PM
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Thanks for the reply I will give it a read.



posted on Sep, 1 2008 @ 03:49 PM
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Originally posted by SteveR
Thanks for the reply I will give it a read.



You're welcome. In addition to the info supplied above (scroll up to find the Loftus-supplied original data at www.abovetopsecret.com...) here's some more info on the same subject from another source, The National Enquirer Online (who simplified Loftus' info), by a better writer than me when it comes to expressing things in layman's language ... I hope it's additionally helpful:

www.abovetopsecret.com...:

Enron gave the Taliban millions of dollars in a no-holds-barred bid to strike a deal for an energy pipeline in Afghanistan -- while the Taliban were already sheltering terror kingpin Osama Bin Laden. -some of the Enron money wound up supporting Bin Laden and his Al Qaeda terrorist network.


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