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reply posted on 31-8-2008 @ 12:47 AM by Trustnoone1987

reply to post by Rockpuck

Hey Rockpuck thanks for the answer

I appreciate you giving me a clear and straightforward answer, like I said earlier I don't know enough about Masons to call myself an anti-mason, just trying to understand more about you guys

reply posted on 31-8-2008 @ 12:47 AM by Rockpuck

reply to post by AugustusMasonicus

What he's saying is it's Freemasonry's fault he can't afford a car, cannot comprehend astrophysics and cannot look at porn online without paying "the man".

We really are some evil bastards mate...

reply posted on 31-8-2008 @ 12:50 AM by Rockpuck

reply to post by Trustnoone1987

Meh, the only way to "get" Masonry is to be a Mason. Trust me, even as a Mason it takes some time to understand everything. A lot of it doesn't make sense at first, and from the outside it's like "wha ..." because information is rare, good information anyways. The information that IS there is disinformation ..

Ask any Brother.. Masonry isn't that exciting.. in the sense some people think anyways.

And ask anyone who has rubbed elbows with the rich and powerful .. they are not all Masons and Jews.

So the second best way to understand Masonry is to ask questions, and we always try and explain it to the best of our linguistic abilities!

reply posted on 31-8-2008 @ 12:50 AM by adrenochrome

Originally posted by RuneSpider
How did you ascertain Ron Paul to be a Mason, as well as his immediate family, and why did that change your opinion of him?

aftermathnews.wordpress.com...

...and as for changing my opinion of him, well, it really didn't that much. it's just that now i know i can't fully trust him, and now i have to take everything he says with a grain of salt

reply posted on 31-8-2008 @ 12:50 AM by AugustusMasonicus

reply to post by adrenochrome

Because my belief in Diety is not being utilized to support the unfounded assertions of a specious theory. Furthermore, I do not use my belief as evidence to substantiate fact. Nothing replaces facts and truth, which in your claims you have provided niether.

reply posted on 31-8-2008 @ 12:50 AM by RuneSpider

reply to post by Trustnoone1987

I know that in a buisness sense it is a good idea to try to set up your business, and then staff it mainly from the locals. Set it up to run independantly, with a set of guidlines, and then let it run.
Makes it so the smaller business can make it's own functions descisions, and encourages a certain amount of freedom of ideas, as well as greeting the locals with familiar faces.
As for why Masonry acts as it does, I dunno, based on the history, it evolved to where it is. Meaning, they found it worked best that way.
From my understanding, which no doubt needs correcting, a Masonry lodge can come into being through two main ways, it can be officially established, or it can gain a charter.
Your parallel to terroists, which also draws parallels to many business in America, is most likely because the system works. Wether it was stumbled upon or copied, I dunno.

reply posted on 31-8-2008 @ 12:51 AM by Rockpuck

reply to post by adrenochrome

Paul's not a Freemason. We are proud of ANY politician who is a Mason, and at this years World Conference the House members who where Masons where there, and Paul was NOT among them.

But if he where, my respect for him would only increase. Least then I would know where is morals are.

reply posted on 31-8-2008 @ 12:52 AM by AugustusMasonicus

Originally posted by Rockpuck
We really are some evil bastards mate...

Agreed, you are like 1 and I am 1A. Segeways for all!

reply posted on 31-8-2008 @ 12:54 AM by Rockpuck

reply to post by RuneSpider

Ya, something like that...

Except in Businesses .. well you don't want to have a yearly argument on how much money each of your branches is willing to give you lol..

Only way to see the political workings of this decentralized behemoth is to sit in on a Communication. Which you must be a Mason to do.

reply posted on 31-8-2008 @ 12:55 AM by AugustusMasonicus

reply to post by adrenochrome

Your link did not show Dr. Paul to be a Mason, although I would welcome him if he were, as a matter of fact the author states that he can not prove that Ron Paul is a Mason.

[edit on 31-8-2008 by AugustusMasonicus]

reply posted on 31-8-2008 @ 12:57 AM by adrenochrome

Originally posted by Rockpuck
To say that Masons are evil simply because you say so is the definition of ignorance and intolerance. Not to mention self absorbed idiocracy.

...and ignorance is not even bothering to read all my posts on this thread... if you did, then you know i don't think all are evil, and i was making a point to augustus - that he says he can't believe what i know to be true because i don't have proof, but he's a member of an organization that requires their members to have faith in something that you can't prove to be true. don't get me wrong, i know there's a divine creator. i just don't endorse freemasonry.

and why must most of you attack others' characters when they try to prove you wrong? seems like a cheap blow to me.

[edit on 31-8-2008 by adrenochrome]

reply posted on 31-8-2008 @ 12:59 AM by RuneSpider

reply to post by Rockpuck

I'm working on it, but until my schedule lets up, or some kinda miracle occurs with my schedule, I'll stick to reading, some very interesting and good reading available.

reply posted on 31-8-2008 @ 01:00 AM by Rockpuck

reply to post by adrenochrome

You apparently still miss the logic (or lack there of) in the comment you provided us.

reply posted on 31-8-2008 @ 01:06 AM by adrenochrome

well i'm done arguing with you guys - it's like ramming my head into a brick wall - a material brick wall. freemasonry endorses materialism. period. if you need proof of that then you should pull your head out of your rear. you obviously think you're more powerful than the average person, otherwise you all wouldn't be so condescending towards others who are trying to figure out your secret organization.

the proof is in the symbols... anyone who studies symbols knows this.

[edit on 31-8-2008 by adrenochrome]

reply posted on 31-8-2008 @ 01:06 AM by Wolfheart

reply to post by network dude

Intelligent discussion is all but a fools ploy to hide the terror in his thoughts. I'd rather see people cannibalizing each other on the streets than support the drainage this civilization builds on ones soul.

reply posted on 31-8-2008 @ 02:03 AM by ANBUblackops

Masons are rly evil and sick people.

reply posted on 31-8-2008 @ 03:19 AM by Trauma

Mostly I feel sorry for Freemasons because the entire structure of the society is based upon deception, double meanings and manipulation. In fact, that is the first thing you have to realize if you ever want to become a very high level Freemason. Freemasonry as low-level Freemasons know it is almost a completely different society than the higher degrees.

reply posted on 31-8-2008 @ 03:49 AM by RuneSpider

I must say, all of you have provided such obviouse insight into something you obviously know a lot about. I shall take a good amount of time to research the evidence you have given, and get back to you.
Especially Anbu blackops, now there's a witty fellow if ever i saw one, "rly."
Look, I'm going to ask the same question because I actually want to know, what are you basing your opinions on?

reply posted on 31-8-2008 @ 07:51 AM by Appak

Originally posted by Simplynoone
No way ! Really seriously your not just jerking our chain are ya ?
How do you know for sure its not a replica ?You know they made some replicas right ?
Did you find out what they plan on doing with it ?

Yes, of course I'm kidding, but only a little.

You see the lessons of Freemasonry in many of the degrees are based upon the Hebrew Scriptures (i.e., The Old Testament) The Royal Arch Degree of the so-called York Rite is based upon the finding of one of the replicas of which you speak, so Royal Arch Chapters have a model of the Ark that is used in the Degree.

Here's a site where some are sold:

www.arkcovenant.com...

www.arkcovenant.com...

[edit on 31-8-2008 by Appak]

reply posted on 31-8-2008 @ 09:04 AM by Evisscerator

Originally posted by network dude
It seems we have gotten off to a bad start in my opinion. When an Anti mason starts a thread about how evil the "higher level masons" are we as masons come here to defend that that just aint so.

When in reality, we might no know of the diabolical plan the 34th through 360th degree masons have in store for us all. A couple of the masons that post here are students, so I would assume they are not 60 year old masons. I have only been a mason for two years now. So no matter what my age is, I have not been informed of the grand plan yet.

When we get called pedofiles, liars, killers, rapists, thieves, ect., we kind of get defensive. Sorry.

Would all the anti masons please reply to this thread with a short answer to this question.

would you like us (masons) to not post on your threads? If so would you please help us in coming up with a way that we could be informed as to not disrupt the flow of proof and information you are trying to bring into this world?

Thanks in advance for your replys.