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Originally posted by TheGhostViking
Who pays for that temple then ??? looks expensive ,,, IT DISGUSTS ME , In my country churches beg for money to fix roofs , WHILE YOU MASONS use LAVISH TEMPLES FOR YOUR FRIKKIN HOBBY !!!!!!!!!!!

My Lodge's Temple is a fairly modest but respectably-maintained affair as is another one about 10km closer-into downtown. As a structure, ours dates back to the 1840s while the other one is closer to about a hundred years old. Far from lavish either one and given their respective ages and relative paucity of insulation, a bit of a financial challenge in these days of rising energy costs. Factor in their designations as historically important structures (which necessarily limits just what can alterations can be done to them and in what manner) and you have two buildings that could just as easily be millstones for the membership of the lodges that call them home.

As far as the condition of your country's churches are concerned, Masonic Temples on this side of the pond (as I'm assuming your from Britain) can find themselves in just as dire a circumstance. The care, maintenance and responsibility for one's meeting place falls to the membership alone and to wail for somebody else to pick up the rope and pull is disingenuous.

As was pointed out earlier, Masonic Temples are built and maintained with membership money. Full stop. And like other private structures, they can fall on hard times. The Masonic Temple on Yonge Street in Toronto provides a singular example of how easily this can happen

A Tale of Two Temples

This is what the building's being used for now.

Originally posted by TheGhostViking
Your secret cult is classist too I doubt many roadsweepers are masons !!NO Only people of standing are allowed so you can control commmunities in the shadows , cops lawyers sherrifs judges any one who can get a "brother" out of trouble.

Classist? Hardly. Our Lodge has a few coppers amongst the brethren but the majority are a cross-section of different trades. I'm a television editor for instance; hardly an 'elite'. The same is generally true of Masonry wherever it's found.

Originally posted by TheGhostViking
whats the requirement to be a mason ? "to believe in A god" note it does not say GOD, IT SAYS A GOD AHAH SO IS IT GOD ? ALLAH ? could it be SATAN (SURELY NOT?????? ) . saying " a god" doesnt rule it out does it ????

I believe it was Network Dude that answered your question already although in my province, an applicant has to believe in a Supreme Being which by definition would eliminate Satan.

Originally posted by TheGhostViking
If your intentions are honourable HOLD YOUR MEETINGS IN PUBLIC . no one will believe a frikkin word you say otherwise .
DID YOUR TEACHER NOT TELL YOU NOT TO WHISPER IN CLASS?????

It's a private organisation, easy enough to join if you like. Do you insist on knowing the business of everyone everywhere? How secret is an organisation which is in the phone book, on the web, whose members often drive vehicles with Masonic decals on them or wear Masonic jewellery, has (for the most part) marked and easily recognised meeting places, and for which the 'secret' ritual hasn't been a secret since the early 18th century?

You can close your eyes and insist that something you can't see isn't there but that doesn't make it true.

Originally posted by TheGhostViking
you are a bunch of cowards who dont have the courage to be men.

I have the courage to be identified in my city, province and everywhere I go as a Mason and I frequently assist with public events that would make it impossible for me to later deny my membership. I have the courage to do good works that need doing without looking for praise and recognition. I can respond civilly to a post that smacks of flame-baiting.

If that's what it takes to fulfill your definition of a cowardly child, then I'll live with the epithet. I can live with the shame of being cursed by someone with a narrow mind.

Originally posted by TheGhostViking
GROW UP
LEAVE YOUR OLD drunk git CLUB AND STAND WITH THE PEOPLE WHO ARE TRYING TO STOP THE NWO.

Originally posted by TheGhostViking
THIS FORUM IS FULL OF MASONS and its WRONG and a mockery .

This forum has about a half-dozen or so regular posters that are Masons only a few of which post regularly. I'm not here near so much as I used to be because it gets tiresome having to re-debunk the same tired old anti-Masonic hobby horses that the latest 14-year-old with internet access has 'discovered' and without a moment's critical consideration reposts anew as if they're new to anybody else's world save his.

Others like ND, AM, JN, KSig et al are more patient than I and you could learn something from their forbearance.

Originally posted by TheGhostViking
YOU are the essence of what this forum is SUPPOSED TO be AGAINST _ !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I'm here to deny ignorance. What're you here for?

Originally posted by TheGhostViking
NOONE IS SAYING YOU ARE EVIL- BUT THE NATURE OF YOUR SOCIETY IS A HINDRANCE TO MANKIND _

YOU HAVE TO ADMIT this .............

I don't have to do anything of the kind because it's so far from true as to barely merit a shake of the head. Masonry has made me a better, more considerate man, of greater utility to myself, my family, and society in general. And my story is far from unique.

Hardly sounds like the textbook description of being a "HINDRANCE TO MANKIND".