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Originally posted by Trauma
Mostly I feel sorry for Freemasons because the entire structure of the society is based upon deception, double meanings and manipulation. In fact, that is the first thing you have to realize if you ever want to become a very high level Freemason. Freemasonry as low-level Freemasons know it is almost a completely different society than the higher degrees.
Originally posted by Mintwithahole.
reply to post by network dude
What a stupid question! Let me in turn ask you this question- knowing full well that the upper tiers of Freemasonry are decidedly dodgy
Originally posted by Mintwithahole.
why would anyone, including you, want to be associated with, never mind be a member of, the Freemasons?
Originally posted by Mintwithahole.
reply to post by adrenochrome
" freemasonry endorses materialism. period. if you need proof of that then you should pull your head out of your rear. you obviously think you're more powerful than the average person, otherwise you all wouldn't be so condescending towards others who are trying to figure out your secret organization."
They will tell you that they are not a secret organisation but an organisation with secrets. . !
Originally posted by Mintwithahole.
They will tell you that they are not a secret organisation but an organisation with secrets. . !
Originally posted by Mason mike
...Like cbass said, do the reaserch. Both sides. He found his truth and I have mine. I confirmed mine by joining. What else can I say. Just don't let hate rule who you are.
Originally posted by Mason mike
Originally posted by Mintwithahole.
reply to post by adrenochrome
" freemasonry endorses materialism. period. if you need proof of that then you should pull your head out of your rear. you obviously think you're more powerful than the average person, otherwise you all wouldn't be so condescending towards others who are trying to figure out your secret organization."
They will tell you that they are not a secret organisation but an organisation with secrets. . !
You are correct. We are an oganization with secrets. Not very good ones due to the fact that anyone could find them with 10 minutes fo spare time. Fremasonry isn't for everyone. You for instance would not ba able to handle it. The boot camp is tough. Weapons training takes months.
That was a joke. If you don't like it, fine. but when you speak of it, please speak the truth, and you won't find the truth looking at websites filled with hate. Hate is biased. Love is universal. Brotherhood, friendship, charity, hope, that is what masonry is as told to you by someone who knows, not someone who was denied admission because of a fellony or athieism. Like cbass said, do the reaserch. Both sides. He found his truth and I have mine. I confirmed mine by joining. What else can I say. Just don't let hate rule who you are.
Originally posted by Mintwithahole.
How can you be part of something like the freemasons? Their Gaotu or god is Abaddon, the angel of the abyss or Lucifer as he's better known to us mere mortals.
Originally posted by Mintwithahole.
What makes it all the more unbelievable is that the ordinary,aren't I important I'm a mason, brigade have absolutely no idea what the shrinners above them stand for! Infact, the shriners look down on the lower degrees. .
Originally posted by Fitzgibbon
Originally posted by Mintwithahole.
How can you be part of something like the freemasons? Their Gaotu or god is Abaddon, the angel of the abyss or Lucifer as he's better known to us mere mortals.
What gets me about anti-Masons is that no matter how often it's pointed out that GAOTU refers to God, the Great Architect Of The Universe, someone just HAS to pop up and insist that Masons pray to Lucifer, Satan, Beelzebub, etc. The naysayers insist that we devote ourselves in-Lodge, not to the creative spirit from whence the Universe had its origin but rather to destructive forces.
This despite every indication by word and deed that Freemasonry is focused on building up the society of Man to make the world a better place for all of God's creatures, all in tribute to the Creator of Man. That Masons use the word GAOTU as an universal word in reference to that Creator as a way to allow good men of different religions to work together seems to be taken in every possible negative light by those with an axe to grind.
Not to put too fine an edge on it, mint but you're honestly clueless about Masonry. I'd suggest you infiltrate a Lodge for a few years and then report back with all your 'findings' about the evil deeds and prayers to forces of darkness and so on. I await your disclosure with baited breath.
Originally posted by Mintwithahole.
Yes Gaoto is god, your god Abaddon. Or would you prefer me to call him Shiva or perhaps Zorastor? Pick your poison its all the same in the end- Lucifer.
Originally posted by Fitzgibbon
What gets me about anti-Masons is that no matter how often it's pointed out that GAOTU refers to GOD, the Great ARCHITECT Of The Universe, someone just HAS to pop up and insist that Masons pray to Lucifer, Satan, Beelzebub, etc. The naysayers insist that we devote ourselves in-Lodge, not to the CREATIVE spirit from whence the Universe had its origin but rather to destructive forces.
This despite every indication by word and deed that Freemasonry is focused on BUILDING UP the society of Man to make the world a BETTER place for all of GOD'S creatures, all in tribute to the CREATOR of Man. That Masons use the word GAOTU as an universal word in reference to that CREATOR as a way to allow GOOD men of different religions to work together seems to be taken in every possible negative light by those with an axe to grind.
Originally posted by Mintwithahole.
Yes Gaoto is god, your god Abaddon. Or would you prefer me to call him Shiva or perhaps Zorastor? Pick your poison its all the same in the end- Lucifer.
The lower echerlons of the freemasons make me laugh as they belong to a cult were they openly admit to having absolutely no knowledge of what the cults leaders above them stand for or are doing!
What is the password as you enter the 17th degree? Abaddon.
Its the way the masons begin to open up to those followers who steadily climb the masonic ranks. By the time you reach the top your so brain washed you dont know which way is up or the difference between right and wrong.
As for infiltrating a lodge! You may be nearer to the truth than you know there. . .
Originally posted by Mintwithahole.
What is the password as you enter the 17th degree? Abaddon.