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VFW Post 5760 and the Mercer Island Masonic Lodge are co-sponsoring the annual D.A.R.E. pasta dinner, from 5 to 7:30PM Wednesday, March 26th. The dinner will be held at Islander Middle School, 8255 S.E. 72st., Mercer Island.
Burial will follow in the Centerville Cemetery with Military Honors conducted by the Post #1165 V.F.W. Masonic services will be provided at the cemetery by the Fulton Masonic Lodge
Originally posted by Appak
So beyond modes of recognition (which are readily availble to anyone truly interested) what do you want to know? Seriously.
Originally posted by Shar_Chi
I'm interested to know if freemasons believe the so-called god of the material world is a false demiurge as opposed to a separate 'true' god which is based in light? I have quite a hard time untangling the many gnostic orders. I was invited to lodge but I don't like to take an oath I don't feel I can keep, and personally I don't think masonry is 100% suitable to myself - I'm actually more partial to the aboriginal initiations of this country. That doesn't dull my curiosity however. Thanks.
Originally posted by Appak
I, myself, happen to be a Christian. Many Masons are Jewish, Moslem, etc. That's their particular faith. Masonry is their fraternity and does not interfere with their individual faith.
Originally posted by Cadbury
What about extremely Gnostic Zen Discordians? If I stood up and shouted something like "All hail Eris! All hail Thomas Anderson, defeater of The GAOTU!" in my Masonic interview would they let me in? Or can I just lie?
Originally posted by Cadbury
Originally posted by Appak
I, myself, happen to be a Christian. Many Masons are Jewish, Moslem, etc. That's their particular faith. Masonry is their fraternity and does not interfere with their individual faith.
What about extremely Gnostic Zen Discordians? If I stood up and shouted something like "All hail Eris! All hail Thomas Anderson, defeater of The GAOTU!" in my Masonic interview would they let me in? Or can I just lie?
Originally posted by Appak
No, we'd recommend you for membership in the Shrine. You'd make good clown.
If you want serious discussion, fine. If you want to be ridiculous, scat!
Originally posted by emsed1
It depends.
Is this 'before' or 'after' the stewards are dismissed to prepare for 'masonic refreshment'?
Originally posted by Manasseh
reply to post by Appak
Hard to be much better than the "Master" of something, isn't it?
I am a Master Electrician.
Yet I have no secret handshakes, secret meetings, secret knowledge.
Your secrets will act as an anchor to take you down to the depths.
Most do not realize the terrible oaths that Masons are required to take for each advancing degree in this cult. Each Entering Apprentice, for example, is required to repeat:
"... most solemnly and sincerely promise and swear, that I will always hail, ever conceal, and never reveal, any of the arts, parts or points of the hidden mysteries of ancient Freemasonry. ... All this I most solemnly, sincerely promise and swear, with a firm and steadfast resolution to perform the same, without any mental reservation or secret evasion of mine whatever binding myself under no less a penalty than that of having my throat cut across, my tongue torn out by its roots, and buried in the rough sand of the sea at low water mark where the tide ebbs and flows twice in twenty-four hours, should I ever knowingly or willingly violate my solemn oath and obligation as an Entered Apprentice Mason. So help me, God."
Each succeeding degree has a similar horrible oath and penalty connected with it. But Jesus commanded His followers to "not swear at all" (Matthew 5:34; James 5:12). In addition, Jesus would never sanction these required oaths, for He said: "I have said nothing in secret" (John 18:20). Masonry claims to have found the truth, and yet demands that its members swear never to reveal and always to conceal its teachings! -- How unlike true Christianity in which believers are commanded to "go into all the world and preach the good news to all creation" (Mark 16:15). Masonry's methods stand condemned by the Word of God.
Originally posted by Mason mike
reply to post by DarksDeception
If I told you it wouldn't be a secret now would it?
I know how you can find out though.
We vow not to share it. So read it for yourself. Pike's Morals & Dogma, chapter 32. It's all there, and it's a good one.
Originally posted by DarksDeception
As a 32nd Degree mason, could you please tell me what the "Royal Secret" is?
As all, 32nd degree masons should know this, unless of course it is a secret, lol