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America's relationship with Russia is on a downward slide. President Vladimir Putin's recent threat to retarget Russian missiles at some of America's European allies is just the latest flash point.
The elaborate charade of feigned friendship between Putin and President George W. Bush, begun several years ago when Bush testified to the alleged spiritual depth of his Russian counterpart's soul, hasn't helped. The fact that similarly staged "friendships"--between F.D.R. and "Uncle Joe" Stalin, Nix
Originally posted by andy1033
Will the west accept the demonisation of russia by the western media?
Originally posted by digdeep
I am fairly sure that the West has somewhat unwittingly stumbled into a new Cold War with Russia.
Originally posted by digdeep
It's understandable that Europe would rush to the defence of Georgia
Originally posted by digdeep
That is why Russia are so interested in Georgia in the first place as they want to retain their vast natural resources for as long as possible and Georgia is a resource rich state.
Originally posted by digdeep
On the other hand perhaps it will all blow over as investment in russian businesses has plummeted since the invasion causing their economy to drop by a not insignificant 6% this week.
Originally posted by maloy
There will be no Cold War. Both sides got a little heated a little too fast - but now things are calming down. The West and Russia are realizing that their economies are more important than their egos.
Nothing in politics is done unwittingly. All large governments have experts who plan things three steps ahead. They have the ability to know if a possible Cold War is in the making long beforehand and put a stop to it. The issue is - how do you put a stop to it without looking weak.
Some good points made there and I do fully agree with you. Isn't it sad that we all have to worry about 'saving face' infront of one another. I've had pubfights with similar motivation and yet the same is being done by global politicians!!
Originally posted by digdeep
It's understandable that Europe would rush to the defence of Georgia
Actually it will not rush to any defence. It hasn't and it won't. They bark in support of Georgia, but that's about it.
Where did you gather that Georgia is a resource rich state? It has no oil, and no gas. This isn't about Georgia's resources - it is about their NATO membership.
Georgia does have large oil deposits, just no industry as yet to extract it making it even more appealing. Also you are right that NATO has not as yet made any move towards military action against Russia, which would be very stupid for all involved but it must be remembered that modern politics are primarily about words and not actions. It is foolish to take such a condescending tone when discussing such issues as war is something that we all should fear. Gone are the days of heavy casualties followed by prolonged rehabilitation. Just one poorly handled dispute could see the extinction of mankind.
[edit on 30-8-2008 by digdeep] Not that it seems to have worked. I appear to have jumbled my responses amongst a number of quotations from both Maloy and Myself and then gift wrapped the whole lot within yet another quote. Sorry!!
[edit on 30-8-2008 by digdeep]
Originally posted by sn00daard
The way is see it, the cold war never stopped. Russia broke down so it was no longer a credible enemy. Enter terrorism. Now Russia has had some time to get its affairs in order and they are back, with a vengeance. The USA is glad about it too, the Russians know how to play ball, unlike those pesky fanatic terrorists.
Originally posted by sn00daard
The way is see it, the cold war never stopped. Russia broke down so it was no longer a credible enemy. Enter terrorism. Now Russia has had some time to get its affairs in order and they are back, with a vengeance. The USA is glad about it too, the Russians know how to play ball, unlike those pesky fanatic terrorists.