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Zodiac Killer's Identity And Weapon Uncovered?

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posted on Aug, 29 2008 @ 05:11 PM
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Zodiac Killer's Identity And Weapon Uncovered?


www.liveleak.com

Aug 28, 2008
Local Man: Zodiac Killer Was My Stepfather
SACRAMENTO (CBS13) ― The Zodiac Killer attacked at least eight people, terrorizing the Bay Area and taunting police in the 60's and 70's. Thursday, the FBI confirmed to CBS13 they are now running laboratory tests on some items that may link a suspect to the killer.

The evidence was given to the FBI by a man who also claims he recently found the disguise worn by the Zodiac Killer during one of his attacks.
(visit the link for the full news article)


Related News Links:
www.liveleak.com
en.wikipedia.org




posted on Aug, 29 2008 @ 05:11 PM
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Click the link for a video report and an interview with the guy.

I don't know what to think of this, my first guess was his stepdad was having some fun from beyond the grave. But the FBI seems to find it credible enough to do some lab testing on this "evidence".

Can't wait till we get the results of those. After all Arthur Leigh Allen was never charged and most testing ruled him out as a suspect. Check the wiki link.

www.liveleak.com
(visit the link for the full news article)



posted on Aug, 29 2008 @ 05:13 PM
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I really hope this turns out to be something of substance, I think most people would love to know the identity of the Zodiac once and for all.

Be good for the victims families to finally be able to put this to rest too.

I am watching this space.....



posted on Aug, 29 2008 @ 05:54 PM
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Good post...update this is they do find anything out. Zodiac always did get my attention...
Starrd and flagged.
-Z-



posted on Aug, 29 2008 @ 06:17 PM
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Yeah, the handwriting on the note held up in the video looked (non-expert and folk reckoning) just like the Zodiac note writing to me.
Plus stepfathers are a likely evil pool to draw from. Like in Hamlet.



posted on Aug, 29 2008 @ 06:25 PM
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I think it's a fat pantload, just a publicity seekers fun.

My father was largely involved with the investigations at the time of the murders, and I have a rather large file of interesting things about the Zodiac case. Not all the facts are known to the public, plenty of theories and there are some named individuals of interest listed due to, in my opinion overwhelming coincidence.

I got a hunch that the supposed evidence that is being reviewed will turn out to be inconclusive.

Guess we'll see eh?



posted on Aug, 29 2008 @ 06:41 PM
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Great job linking us to this story! I still lean towards Arthur Leigh allen even though, as you pointed out, a lot of things that were supposed to incriminate Mr.Allen actually seemed to do otherwise. I'll keep an eye on this to see if any MSM reports the findings of the foresnsic testing or if it's just swept under the rug.

Great thread. Starring and flaging. Cheers sn00daard!



posted on Aug, 29 2008 @ 06:45 PM
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here is another link that i found to continue this breaking story

cbs13.com...



posted on Aug, 29 2008 @ 06:58 PM
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Wow. Im a believer. Ill be paying attention to this one. Great find.



posted on Aug, 29 2008 @ 07:13 PM
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Wow, very convincing. I wonder what pics are on those rolls of film?

I'll be keeping tabs on this story for sure.



posted on Aug, 29 2008 @ 08:30 PM
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Yeah I agree. I'm reserving judgement for now because like I said, I'm sort of a believer in the Arthur Leigh Allen theory. It's simply the best thing that fit so far, as far as I'm concerned. But this is certainly worth following anyways. Well done sn00daard. And good link jwstarry.



posted on Aug, 30 2008 @ 08:43 AM
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Fascinating. The Zodiac case is an incredible journey into the mind of someone. The details presented are very compelling and hopefully FBI testing provides an answer. Something in my gut tells me this is the real deal and that this may be solved.

Arthur Leigh Allen's DNA was ruled out in 2002 so as much as the movie attempts to portray Leigh as the killer I think science says otherwise.

brill



posted on Aug, 30 2008 @ 02:01 PM
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This guy is actually a conman. This is not the first time he has tried to pull a stunt like this....

[edit on 30-8-2008 by Dulcimer]



posted on Aug, 30 2008 @ 02:05 PM
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posted on Aug, 30 2008 @ 02:11 PM
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Oh, heres some "proof" to back up my claim. The man known as son of zodiac aka Jack Frost is Dennis Kaufman.



Date: Sat, 18 Nov 2000 02:34:10 -0800 (PST)
From: Jack Frost "
Subject: sorry, but you lost.
To: tom voigt "

Tom.
You still holding those pictures close like I said?
Do you enjoy making fools of the people that post on
your website? If you are the 'authority' that you
claim to be, then you must have certainly heard that
my step-fathers DNA was a match against the Zodiac.
I
can't wait until I am on T.V., so I can "rub your nose
in your boo-boo".

P.S. I got some 'original' pictures of the Zodiac that
I want $5,000.00 each. I only have three that I will sell.

Date: Sat, 18 Nov 2000 14:12:39 -0800 (PST)
From: Jack Frost "
Subject: Nagasaki
To: tom voigt "

Tom,
you know what? you're right. The price is now
$25,000.00 a piece for them. And for $50,000.00 I'll
give you a piece of Stein's shirt. Don't bother
replying unless you are truly interested in purchasing
any of these items.


Subject: Zodiac
Date: Tue, 2 Jan 2001 01:49:50 -0800 (PST)
From: Jack Frost
To: tom voigt

Mr expert, just wanted you to know that you are
considered a nuisance by all the law enforcement
agencies that I have currently been in contact with.
You would be the last person that would have access
to confidential information about the zodiac case, or
any other case for that matter! The only dealings you
may have with any law enforcement agencies in the
future, is by getting arrested for obstruction of
justice! It is punks like you who keep murderers from
getting caught! You and your stupid f****** website
will be gone VERY SOON! Since you know so little about
the zodiac, I will tell you why. Allens DNA has not
been tested to see if it matched the zodiac, because
there are certain things, you obviously do not know,
that make it impossible for Allen to be the zodiac!
Allen never has, nor will he ever be tested, to see if
he is zodiac. That has already been established
you f****** lame!!!!! Why dont you take your
wonderful detective skills and figure out who
shot Kennedy! HA!HA!HA!HA! Get a f****** life you
stupid little sissy fagot!!!!!
SHEMHAMFORASH HAIL SATAN!!!!!

Subject: Zodiac Killer
Date: Thu, 8 Feb 2001 19:45:44 -0800 (PST)
From: Jack Frost
To: tom voigt "

Tom,
My Name is Dennis, I think you know who I am.
Recently I talked to a law enforcement officer who
thought that you where creditable. He is the first
person that has felt this way that, i've talked to
since I have been working with the FBI. I will be
willing to work with you to some degree. I am
currently in Olympia, WA right now visiting my sister.
Even though your attitude has been poor in the past, I
respect the fact that you have put alot of hours in
gathering information, and YES my step Father is the
ZODIAC KILLER. If you are interested in talking to me
email me back and I will give you a phone number that
you can call me at.

Subject: The real Zodiac
Date: Tue, 20 Feb 2001 12:43:38 -0800 (PST)
From: Jack Frost
To: tom voigt

Tom, You know how to get a hold of some key
witnesses, and I know who the Zodiac is, and I have
video tape of him that I guarantee Kathleen Johns
would positively identify. I wish your attitude was
different so I could work with you. I was the man on
KOVR news, and my stepfather is the reason all this is
happening, thats why they had me on their show. But
they could not say that, because my stepfather has to
many relatives around Sacramento. This thing would be
over by now, but do to all the law enforcement
agencies involved, each agency wanted to be the one
who handled the forensics. They are finally working
together. I am still willing to set aside our differences so
this mystery of Zodiac, can be put to rest.

Subject: Mt. Diablo-ground zero
Date: Wed, 21 Feb 2001 14:36:24 -0800 (PST)
From: Jack Frost
To: tom voigt

I was not joking at all about about Satan. I am a high
ranking member of the Church of Satan, and proud of
it. You are obviously one of those people who tell
little children that it is better when you die! I have
also published a book called, "CHRISTIANITY, THE
DEADIIEST DISEASE OF ALL". Satan really bothers you I
see, so you must be careful and avoid law enforcement,
for they all openly display the symbol of Satan on
their chest! Satan is everywhere Tom, keep a look out
for demons, they come in many forms, and they are my
cherished brothers, and that is not a joke. Keep a
watch out for very strange shapes, and you will see
things you never could have imagined. Good luck Tom,
and it has been a pleasure talking to you.
in nomine neonostri Santanis Luciferi exselsi!!!!!




posted on Aug, 30 2008 @ 03:34 PM
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A while back i went into great detail and created this thread "The Zodiac Killer: Cracking The Codes of A Madman.", and as my conclusion showed, i believe it was Arthur Leigh Allen.

Fox



posted on Aug, 30 2008 @ 03:42 PM
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I have read so many differing opinions about this case that I have come to the conclusion that, just like the Black Dalia", no one will be confirmed as the Zodiac killer. It will be another case that will go down in infamy as unsolved. Much forensic evidence that now would have been taken never was because it wasn't the usual proceedure till very recent times. Proof will remain elusive. I would love to see it solved only because I remember the terror this person caused and the finality that the families still need.

Zindo



posted on Aug, 30 2008 @ 03:56 PM
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One day this case will be solved, I bet nobody ever in their wildest dreams thought that BTK or the Green River Killer would ever be caught but both cases were solved, yeah it took decades of hard work and pure luck but I am confident that it can and will be done.

That being said my question is why did he stop killing after 1969? Did he die? Did he get sent to Vietnam/was he in the military? Was he sent off to prison or a mental hospital? So many unanswered questions ...



posted on Aug, 30 2008 @ 04:11 PM
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Very interesting thread.
What do you think about the fact
- that he passed a polygraph,
- that his fingerprints did not match any prints they recovered from the scenes or letters(after multiple test by various experts from different agencies),
- that his DNA did not match that from the stamps
- and that his handwriting was no match according to a California handwriting analysts?

I have all that from this site:
members.aol.com... which I got from the wiki references.
In the footnotes you can see the sources, I have not checked those but they don't seem suspicious at least.
I'de love to hear your take on it since you obviously know a lot about the matter.



posted on Aug, 30 2008 @ 04:38 PM
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The problem with every "suspect" is that they never have enough to go on. Some suspects will have one part, and another will fit another part, but nobody has been even close to conclusive.

The movie Zodiac, while good, should not be used as proof for Allen, which it tries to do.

Who do I think it was? Somebody in control of information, be it police or media, this guy was involved in some aspect like that.



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