Palin vs. Obama... Who Has More Experience?, page 17
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reply posted on 1-9-2008 @ 07:56 AM by mental modulator
Originally posted by iamcamouflage
reply to
post by mhc_70



Yup, i guess, getting elected to the senate and voting on hundreds of bills is one accomplishment.

Here are a few of his accomplishments while working for the state senate:

Voted to end $300 million worth of tax breaks for businesses. (2004)

Voted for having Illinois endorse embryonic stem cell research. (2004)

Voted against restrictions on public funding of abortion. (2000)

Successfully co-sponsored a prescription drug discount buying club program for seniors and the disabled. (2003)

Unsuccessfully co-sponsored ban on discrimination based on sexual orientation. The measure became law after Obama was elected to the U.S. Senate. (2003)

Successfully co-sponsored major ethics reform called the Gift Ban Act. (1998)

Here is a link to most everything he has done, including the committees he is/was on. It also has more voting statistics and bills that he has introduced.
Obama


Do you have any more info/accomplishments on Palin or have we tapped that well.(pun intended.)


BARRACK OBAMA was the PRESIDENT of the HARVARD LAW REVIEW, chosen out of 18 candidates.

LITTLE attention is paid to this, but this position is like being the most excellent of the excellent in the field of law. WORLD CLASS, at arguably one of the most academically
prestigious institution in the world...

I'm my opinion this experience is one of his strongest and most important attribute as pertains to "experience".

The POSITION of POTUS require a great deal of legal understanding and hopefully critical thinking.

I DOUBT that GODDESSARAH has even a miniscule portion of the deep understanding of the law that OBAMA possesses.

FOR all you nay sayer this position is so hard to obtain that the statistical chances are
in the billions.


reply posted on 1-9-2008 @ 08:49 AM by Andrew E. Wiggin
reply to post by mental modulator



BARRACK OBAMA was the PRESIDENT of the HARVARD LAW REVIEW, chosen out of 18 candidates


look - for them to understand the importance of that role

they first have to know what Harvard is.

They have no time between nap time and recess to figure it out at this point...

I'd save my wrists, because these guys are going to give us carpel tunnel


and if McCain gets elected, you wont be able to afford health insurance to take care of it...


reply posted on 1-9-2008 @ 09:03 AM by jamie83
Originally posted by Andrew E. Wiggin
reply to
post by mental modulator



BARRACK OBAMA was the PRESIDENT of the HARVARD LAW REVIEW, chosen out of 18 candidates


look - for them to understand the importance of that role

they first have to know what Harvard is.

They have no time between nap time and recess to figure it out at this point...

I'd save my wrists, because these guys are going to give us carpel tunnel


and if McCain gets elected, you wont be able to afford health insurance to take care of it...


I admit total ignorance to the significance of being President of Harvard Law Review. Can you explain the significance of this position in terms of running for POTUS?



reply posted on 1-9-2008 @ 09:13 AM by Takaris
Originally posted by SailorinAZ
Obama is running for President. Palin will be a Vice President. Big difference.


Honestly, it still bothers me. Palin may be running for VP but McCain is 72 and in questionable health. If (god forbid) something happened to McCain and she had to take the office as President I don't think she could handle it.

The politics on Capitol Hill (I work here) are far different then anything a Mayor or Gov. would have to deal with and that is saying a lot. Palin served on a city council with a population smaller then the one a very good friend served on for four years. (25,000 population) She served as mayor in a town no bigger then the membership of a national union were I was a board member for years. Her past experience as a Mayor or City Council member does not impress me in the least. My friend and I probably made more decisions in a week then she did in a month. Nothing about her experience impresses me at all.

Obama, on some level is less experienced then McCain but in my opinion they are both born of the same tree. Obama has the "on the ground" experience that a agree with while McCain has been a politician for far too long, dug in with the "old guard" and would never upset the status on the hill. Obama is a fresh unknown and I think that is what we need to get our foreign policy back on track and some fresh perspective from someone our age and general background.

Besides, we all know Bush either rolled over his advisers or he has some stupid ones...one thing for sure if the right mixture of level headed advisers assist Obama and he actually listens to them (something I think Bush never did and McCain is too rock headed to ever do.) it will make the perfect synergy.


reply posted on 1-9-2008 @ 09:38 AM by davion
Originally posted by jamie83
I admit total ignorance to the significance of being President of Harvard Law Review. Can you explain the significance of this position in terms of running for POTUS?



From
Wikipedia:

"The Review is one of the most cited law reviews in the United States and considered by many to be the most prestigious. It is published monthly from November through June, with the November issue dedicated to covering the previous year's Supreme Court Term. The review has a circulation of about 8,000,[1] and also publishes online. In addition, it publishes the online-only Harvard Law Review Forum, a rolling journal of scholarly responses to the main journal's content."


According to this New York Times article:

Law reviews, which are edited by students, play a double role at law schools, providing a chance for students to improve their legal research and writing, and at the same time offering judges and scholars a forum for new legal arguments. The Harvard Law Review is generally considered the most widely cited of the student law reviews. On his goals in his new post, Mr. Obama said: ''I personally am interested in pushing a strong minority perspective. I'm fairly opinionated about this. But as president of the law review, I have a limited role as only first among equals.'' Therefore, Mr. Obama said, he would concentrate on making the review a ''forum for debate,'' bringing in new writers and pushing for livelier, more accessible writing.

The president of the law review usually goes on to serve as a clerk for a judge on the Federal Court of Appeals for a year, and then as a clerk for an associate justice of the Supreme Court. Mr. Obama said he planned to spend two or three years in private law practice and then return to Chicago to re-enter community work, either in politics or in local organizing. Professors and students at the law school reacted cautiously to Mr. Obama's selection. ''For better or for worse, people will view it as historically significant,'' said Prof. Randall Kennedy, who teaches contracts and race relations law. ''But I hope it won't overwhelm this individual student's achievement.''


An article on how surprisingly fair and balanced he was


reply posted on 1-9-2008 @ 09:43 AM by mhc_70
Originally posted by iamcamouflage


Obamas nickname is: Barry Obama; “The One”?? Who besides the right bloggers have ever called him this?






"A light will shine down upon you..." LOL

This guy came out of virtually nowhere, gives lofty speeches like they are sermons, and draws huge crowds who fawn over him like a rock star. Obama himself and others in the Democrat Party proclaim him to be the one we have been waiting for (Pelosi even said he has been sent from God). Obama asks you to believe in him (change you can believe in). Given all that, I think the term "The one" is quite fitting in a lighthearted way. Lighten up, it's the silly season.
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reply posted on 1-9-2008 @ 06:09 PM by Zastava
reply to post by jamie83



If your going to make a comparison then compare apples to apples. Your talking about "Vice" Presidents. If thats the case, Biden has the win hands down. If Palin was all that "Great" she would be on the Big Ticket. Face it, all the spin in the world will not make her a somebody. In charge of Alaska National Guard? Whooopey. Now thats quite a qualification. The woman is a loser for anyones ticket. Wait and see...


reply posted on 1-9-2008 @ 06:42 PM by mhc_70
Originally posted by Zastava
reply to
post by jamie83



If your going to make a comparison then compare apples to apples. Your talking about "Vice" Presidents. If thats the case, Biden has the win hands down. If Palin was all that "Great" she would be on the Big Ticket. Face it, all the spin in the world will not make her a somebody. In charge of Alaska National Guard? Whooopey. Now thats quite a qualification. The woman is a loser for anyones ticket. Wait and see...


I agree, you have a point, but it seems to be getting missed by the fact Obama picked Biden while running on a campaign of change...more "do as I say, not as I do".

Contrast that to Palin and McCain has stolen the flag of reform and change and given conservatives something to vote for.


reply posted on 1-9-2008 @ 07:26 PM by sammyjo
Originally posted by jamie83

Palin is commander of the Alaska National Guard. Obama has no similar experience.

Palin is chair of the Interstate Oil and Gas Compact Commission. Obama has no similar experience.

Palin is chair of the National Governors Association (NGA) Natural Resources Committee. Obama has no similar experience.

In fact, in the last 18 months while Palin was working on solutions to the energy problem Obama has been running for office.



All that tells me is that Palin can play weekend warrior once each month and a couple of weeks each year; Palin can keep Bush's oil buddies the fat cats they are already; and Palin can work from the inside to destroy any chances this country has to considerably lower the United States' dependence on oil while appearing to be the golden child of McBush.

She's in bed with the Bush administration so to me, that means she is as crooked as Bush, Cheney, and McBush/McSame.

Personally, I am not that thrilled with Obama because I was hoping for Hillary but if I can't have Hillary on the ticket, I'll choose Obama. Between McSame/McBush and Obama, I'll choose Obama as he is the lesser of the two evils and at least Obama acts as if he cares more for the public than the rich buddies that Bush and McBush want to keep rolling in the money.

It is well overdue to get an idiotic republican out of office, especially one that is more of the same (ie Bush & his puppetmaster Cheney). It's my hope that Obama will hire a special prosecutor to go after the Bush/Cheney team and all the administration employees that perpetuating the lies over the last 8 years; then the time will be right to put Bush/Cheney, and the B/C cronies in the hands of the UN World Court so the Bush/Cheney & crowd can be tried on treason and inhumane treatment against prisoners of war, which is a slap in the face of the Geneva Convention rules as it relates to POWs.

It is long overdue for Bush, Cheney, and company to face what they shoved upon Sadaam. It's time for these men to pay the piper... WITHOUT ANY PARDONS!

SJ



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reply posted on 1-9-2008 @ 07:50 PM by sammyjo
reply to post by mhc_70



Yes, there's proof and it consists of learning to read as well as choosing documents that do not come from the same source such as Fox news. Read a bit of REAL news for a change!

SJ


reply posted on 1-9-2008 @ 08:12 PM by sammyjo
reply to post by mhc_70



I am not your undergraduate or your law clerk. Do the research on your own. If you have trouble with the alphabet, then I think it is time to return to kindergarten and then work your way back toward high school; perhaps by then you will be able to do your own research.

I did my research. Now you just have to bite the bullet and do your own.

SJ
PS: My days of law clerking are over.
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