McCains VP Choice Palin Currently Being Investigated For Abuse Of Office: Faces Impeachment, page 5
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reply posted on 31-8-2008 @ 02:58 PM by iamcamouflage
reply to post by LLoyd45



Can you expain to me how Obama is a rock star? Does he play in a band? I really dont get this accusation from McCain supporters. Obama did not come from a well to do family, he paid his way through college, he is known for having much fewer lobbyist connections than most politicians.

Do you call him a rock star because he is popular? Is being popular among constituents a bad thing.

If you are going to call him a rock star, I think you should explain why you call him that.


reply posted on 1-9-2008 @ 02:22 PM by Anonymous ATS
reply to post by beforetime



I take it the Republicans run clean campaigns, then based on truth and understanding?

what freakin' planet have YOU been on for the past 8 years?



reply posted on 2-9-2008 @ 02:12 PM by Grafilthy
reply to post by 4x4fun




She's a woman. Need I say more?

And Hitler was a man....

No, you need not say any more.


reply posted on 2-9-2008 @ 08:53 PM by 4x4fun
reply to post by Grafilthy



I'm curious to why you quoted me and the comments that followed.
Certainly you don't think she will order the killing of 6 million jews, I hope.
What is it you are suggesting?


reply posted on 3-9-2008 @ 11:31 AM by Grafilthy
reply to post by 4x4fun



My point is.....
Voting for someone JUST because they are say...a woman, or black,....or purple for that matter...sets the dangerous precedent that it doesn't matter what a politician believes in as long as they look like you.

I am a white male. That does not give John McCain my vote automatically.


reply posted on 4-9-2008 @ 03:30 AM by botiemaster
Originally posted by Grafilthy
reply to
post by 4x4fun



My point is.....
Voting for someone JUST because they are say...a woman, or black,....or purple for that matter...sets the dangerous precedent that it doesn't matter what a politician believes in as long as they look like you.

I am a white male. That does not give John McCain my vote automatically.
but for most people they will automatically vote for their party. I don't see any 'change' with voting habit by the people who apparently want it so badly. But then that's people for you. They are quick to want something, but if they have to work for that something, forget about it...


reply posted on 4-9-2008 @ 01:09 PM by 4x4fun
reply to post by Grafilthy



I've already come to this conclusion starting with Obama, so I can agree with your assessment.


reply posted on 4-9-2008 @ 01:55 PM by Cuntry
Sarah had a right if not a duty to get that State Trooper fired. If you read of any cop acting like this one you would demand it. The public safety commissioner had to be let go for failure to follow her orders. This is the kind of cop you see on Utube beating some motorist sensless.

Something I found at another forum. If this is true which I figure it is it shows why Palin is not worried about any investigation about the trooper.

Politics: You'll be hearing a lot in coming weeks about Sarah Palin's "abuse of power" in trying to get a state cop fired. Here's the back story you won't be hearing.


Palin's political enemies have a stink bomb set to go off late in October, just before the election. That's when voters will see fruits of a "legislative investigation" into the charge that the governor fired Alaska's Public Safety Commissioner Walter Monegan because he wouldn't get rid of Mike Wooten, a state trooper and Palin's ex-brother-in-law.

We can see where this is headed. Palin will be found to have done nothing illegal in firing Monegan, since public safety commissioners serve at the governor's pleasure. But the media will frame this case in vague but sinister terms: Think "abuse of power." It will also bury the back story that explains why Palin was so concerned.

So here are some key facts to keep on file (for a full report on Wooten, see adn.com/front/story/476430.html). You may not be seeing much of them from here on:

• Mike Wooten, 35, has been a trooper since 2001. He has been married and divorced four times. One of his marriages was to Palin's sister, Molly McCann, with whom he had two children. That marriage ended in 2006. His behavior leading up to the divorce led Palin's and McCann's father, Chuck Heath, to file a formal complaint about him to the state police.

• Heath and Sarah Palin, who was not yet governor, said that Wooten had threatened to kill Heath — telling McCann that Heath "would eat a f***ing lead bullet" if he hired a lawyer for her. They also charged that he had used a Taser on his own 11-year-old stepson, had drunk beer in his patrol car and had shot a cow moose without a license (the latter a crime in Alaska, where such licenses are not easy to come by).

• The state police investigated these charges and substantiated all of them. Col. Julia Grimes, then head of the Alaska State Troopers, suspended Wooten for 10 days and wrote, "The record clearly indicates a serious and concentrated pattern of unacceptable and at times, illegal activity occurring over a lengthy period, which establishes a course of conduct totally at odds with the ethics of our profession." She warned him he would be fired if he didn't shape up. The troopers' union got the suspension cut to five days.

Now ask yourself this: If you were Sarah Palin and had such a revealing look at Mike Wooten, would you have wanted him on the force? Palin was acting as any concerned citizen should after a close encounter with an unfit cop. If there's abuse of power in this story, it lies on the side of bureaucrats and unions protecting officers whose behavior makes them a danger to the public.
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reply posted on 4-9-2008 @ 02:45 PM by 4x4fun
reply to post by KaginD



I have, but some people will just refuse to listen to reason. Maybe you would like to give it a try, by sitting down with the voters who would rather vote because of racial reasons and see how far you get.

Also, I take orders from no-one ok...


reply posted on 4-9-2008 @ 06:38 PM by schrodingers dog
Some breaking news on this:

"It's apparent to us that the governor or someone on her staff had direct access to his personnel file, as well as his workers' comp file, and those are protected," said John Cyr, executive director of the Alaska Public Safety Employees Association.


cnn

"The individual inquiries taken by themselves are one thing. Many of these inquiries were completely appropriate; however, the serial nature of the contacts understandably could be perceived as some kind of pressure, presumably at my direction," she said.

But in papers requesting the probe be transferred to the personnel board, Palin's lawyer called Wooten a "rogue trooper" who threatened the governor's family during a bitter divorce and custody battle. Thomas Van Flein, the governor's attorney, said it was appropriate to complain to the head of the department about a trooper the Palins believed posed a threat to their security.

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