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Russia could destroy NATO ships in 20 mins: Admiral

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posted on Aug, 29 2008 @ 06:55 PM
reply to post by DisabledVet

Russia has the sunburn missle system, phalanx cant do anything against it, the missles fly a meter above the ocean.

posted on Aug, 29 2008 @ 06:55 PM

Originally posted by twisted_fate

fire enough missiles at those ships....most will get through, so yes, they could destroy nato ships that quickly.

people seem to really underestimate Russia, you'll regret that.

Well, that's true. You fill the air with missiles and some will get thru.

You don't think if something like that happens, the US ships won't be firing back?

posted on Aug, 29 2008 @ 06:58 PM
Twisted, the US doesn't even have any firepower there yet. The NATO fleet is a joke, both Russia and the US know that.

If the US Navy were to come down on the Russian Navy, it would be all she wrote. The Russian Navy is no match for the US Navy, not even close.

You could make a case for the Soviet Union, but not now. While Russia has some renewed military life, it is still nothing like before.

They would be foolish to antagonize the US, it would spell the end of their Navy for another 20 years.

posted on Aug, 29 2008 @ 07:11 PM
I would be very surprised if there were any ships left after 10 minutes.
But if Russia's navy requires 20 minutes to complete the job, they will not be there after 5.

Modern naval warfare is very fast, blink and you will miss the action.

We have already deployed suntan oil to the fleet. There will be no sunburns on this watch.

NATO, I think their fleet is just a human sacrifice to ensure WWIII gets a proper sendoff.

If you have ever seen Russian war ships they are just bristeling with large weapons. They make American war ships look positively unarmed. But I am basing my statement solely on the Russian Admiral's 20 minute estimate. I don't really believe he thought that one all the way through!

[edit on 29-8-2008 by Cyberbian]

posted on Aug, 29 2008 @ 07:22 PM
When they first tested the Phallanx gun, it shot the tow plane to little pieces.

It shot the little pieces to littler pieces.

It started to follow the tow rope from the target to the plane pulling the target shortening it inch by inch and they had to shut it down.

No missiles will get through. Aegis will not like being fired upon Aegis will be very angry, you would not like Aegis when Aegis is angry.

posted on Aug, 29 2008 @ 08:11 PM

Originally posted by Remag101
Russia has the sunburn missle system, phalanx cant do anything against it, the missles fly a meter above the ocean.

Do any of the ships out there have Goalkeeper? That was designed to fight off the Sunburn.

posted on Aug, 29 2008 @ 08:19 PM
Taking bits and pieces from this thread we have written the script for this episode of the Twilight Zone.

We enter into the episode already in progress. After a long time of peace and prosperity, the fingers get itchy. Those flashy big red blinking buttons look tempting. During this time of piece, the big boys have pissed in the pond enough. They don't have anything else to show off. The natives are getting restless and are starting too not believe the hype any more, on a global scale. So they brag and boast. Wanting an excuse to bring out all their stealthy robotic toys. It should be real fun. We got a surprise for them. We have all these remote control doo-hickeys with video goggles. Just like being there. Each side things they've got it made. Surgical precision. Somebody over there throws something over there and hits somebody else in the head at the peace talks. They start blaming each other and taking sides. Soon the room is cleared out with traisl of dust as they all run back home to put on thier goggles. The people get anxious. Then in some remote land, where some poor souls live who we never heard of loose everything. As thats where it starts and they bring out their toys and wreak havoc. But the people revolt, they wont have it. The soldiers lay down thier arms and refuse to fight. The big boys appear to panic. They all huddle back in the conference room and close the door. All of sudden, in the sky things start popping up. Doing ugly things. They come from another world the big boys declare to the people. And they want to kill us all. So we have to lock everything down and we all can't go. We have to clear the surface and fight for our planet. We have cities built ready to go. but we all can't fit. If your rating is this number and above you qualify to get on the list. Then we have to verify you and your family history with all the records we have. To assure sure you are politically correct. We just need a drop of blood to track your dna back 15,000 years to see if you are genetically compatible and free of defects. The rest of you stay up top, be patriotic and fight.
We leave this episode of the twilight zone zoomed in the face of a patriotic citizen, John Q Public, as he hears the news as he realized he doesn't qualify.

Back to reality: bear in mind the truth is stranger than fiction. with all the speculation on technology and advancements, the trillions of dollars on both sides that have gone in to black ops. I believe man realizes that nuclear war is not an option. So they have some other cookie cutters under the tarp some where just icthin' to try out.

[edit on 29-8-2008 by mantic]

posted on Aug, 29 2008 @ 08:22 PM
reply to post by jerico65

they sure would, that would pretty much destroy the Russian navy...and then we all know what would happen next, right?

posted on Aug, 29 2008 @ 08:23 PM
reply to post by DisabledVet

the US fleet isnt invinsible against attacks

neither is russia

edit: scene from sum of all fears
i know its fiction but video is cool

[edit on 29-8-2008 by bodrul]

posted on Aug, 29 2008 @ 08:38 PM
You know the nickname US sailors have for the Phalanx?
The "abandon ship alarm"

It's not considered likely to stop a salvo attack - one or two missiles maybe.

There is very little chance of shooting actually breaking out anyway, the scaremongering is not realistic here.

posted on Aug, 29 2008 @ 09:04 PM
The following is my opinion as a member participating in this discussion.

A quick glance at the Black Sea shows one minor problem; access is quite restrictive. A battle group steaming through the channel past Istanbul is in a very exposed situation as they head north into the sea.

Another impediment is Turkey itself. The (Islamic) government and the (sectarian) military are at odds already, so allowing a sizable NATO naval fleet through might cause them some understandable angst and handwringing.

Russia, on the other hand, has shoreline property AND a piece of the sea.

They could utilize land based missiles as well as nearby airfields.

I doubt it will get to shooting unless somebody REALLY wants a war between Russia and the west.

As an ATS Staff Member, I will not moderate in threads such as this where I have participated as a member.

posted on Aug, 29 2008 @ 09:09 PM
reply to post by xmotex

Great film but where was the rest of the fleet. Aircraft carriers don't fight alone, and i doubt that the jets will be on the deck when they do.

I don't know if anyone will be left standing if a US fleet faces a Russian fleet. I just know I would not want to be there when it happens.

posted on Aug, 29 2008 @ 09:24 PM
We are talking about this scenario and so are the generals as if the two fleets in the sea will have a stand alone battle.

That's why the situations scary, even the generals are dummies and act as if there ebgagement si the engagement.

As soon as either side fires, aircraft will be launched from both sides, as shore missiles are used missiles will befired from the usa to destroy those.

When those cruise missiles hit on Russian soil they will start shooting missiles at our positions in the region, when that happens we will use more missiles and bombers to attack targets deeper in russian territory

when that happens knowing the bombers might carry nukes they will use nukes against our fleet in the gulf

after that a full nuclear exchange will follow

That battle at sea wont last 20 minutes it will last 18-24 hrs and end the war... the hard way

posted on Aug, 29 2008 @ 09:32 PM
reply to post by Cyberbian

Bodrul posted the video, not me.

Credit where credit is due and all that...

posted on Aug, 29 2008 @ 10:54 PM

Originally posted by Remag101
reply to post by DisabledVet

Russia has the sunburn missle system, phalanx cant do anything against it, the missles fly a meter above the ocean.

It's the U.S. submarines under the water that Russia should really worry about.

posted on Aug, 29 2008 @ 11:00 PM
my thanks to you for adding this in quick time...

it's been hard to keep up with this 'growing situation' hehe, the media is either too stupid to be covering it or something fishy is going on like "they don't WANT YOU to know what's going on" hehe

the progress of what's happening is uncanny.. i read an article off ats that someone wrote saying that

bush wants supreme control,
airplanes into buildings were already used to take a few rights off our backs;
something new and EXTREMELY SHOCKING has to be employed
it feels like the georgia russian situation is a rubber band being stretched
and when it POPS! america will be so afraid they will LINE UP to give up all their rights ]
somewhere in there bush will declare martial law

anyways although his prophecy that i read was quite strange ( but then again a government staging 9-11 on itself is strange too ) and not all of it has come true... there is a ghostly echoe i hear from the future when i read this russian georgia #


posted on Aug, 29 2008 @ 11:37 PM
reply to post by jetxnet

What! We have 3 Arleigh Burke missle cruisers, the best in the world, now in the Baltic, two aircraft carriers standing by in the Med. Sea, Airbases in turkey, 3 airbases along the Iranian border than can overfly Armenia direct to Georgia, plus Nato, plus the ability to shut down the Baltic Sealanes to the Med.

Wars coming based upon all of the Russian changes. Time we started shooting down the Russian aircraft that have been overflying our Carriers. No more escorting them out of the area.

posted on Aug, 29 2008 @ 11:41 PM
Any possibility that one of the classified DoD launches could have contained a kinetic bombardment sattelite?

I figure a few of these in an anti-shipping role could give the russians something to worry about no?

posted on Aug, 29 2008 @ 11:46 PM
Yeah if they want to start WW3 they could...

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[edit on 30/8/2008 by watch_the_rocks]

posted on Aug, 29 2008 @ 11:52 PM
reply to post by DisabledVet

MK 15 Phalanx Close-In Weapons System (CIWS)

Very unreliable system.When the USS Stark was attacked by a Iraq warplane,that piece of junk didn't even detect the incoming missile.
In the fleet they say the acronym CIWS stands for "Captain, it won't shoot."
The better deterrent to some boozed up Russian making claims with his mouth that his butt can't back up is the knowledge that five minutes after they attacked, the Black Sea fleet would cease to exist.Probably their fleet in the Med also.

[edit on 29-8-2008 by calcoastseeker]

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