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U.S. tells Russia: Give us back our Humvees!

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posted on Aug, 29 2008 @ 07:08 AM
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U.S. tells Russia: Give us back our Humvees!


www.russiatoday.com

The U.S. military wants Russia to return five Humvees that were confiscated while being shipped to the Georgian military. The vehicles were seized earlier this month, with the U.S. claiming the vehicles were taken at a Georgian port awaiting shipment inland.

But the Russian side has suggested the Humvees, which it says were detained near the Georgian port of Poti during a peace-making operation, were carrying “interesting” military equipment.
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posted on Aug, 29 2008 @ 07:08 AM
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Anatoly Nogovitsyn, deputy chief of Russia's General Staff, said he is not eager to return the five Humvees. He said the Russian military had closely examined them and found “a lot of interesting stuff”.


I didn't want to post this headline to ATS, because it's insignificant, but still I cant answer to the question what's that "interesting" stuff they found?

There is another interesting headline on RT, maybe related to this event about the US citizen Michael Lee White who's passport was found among other "interesting documents" in a building - heavily guarded by Georgian Special Forces.

Any ideas?



www.russiatoday.com
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posted on Aug, 29 2008 @ 08:29 AM
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The U.S. hands over military secrets to Moscow

Russia's military is surprised by the Georgian army's negligence

Nikolay Barsegov, Author's photo. — 21.08.2008

An elite group of Georgian special forces drove into the "Russian-occupied" Poti on 5 U.S. military Hummers this week. The vehicles were carrying explosives, firearms and top-secret satellite technology — the pride of NATO generals.

The Russian military learned the special forces were approaching the city long before their arrival. Their movement was detected by satellite and reports had been received from local Georgians angered by Saakashvili's recent military actions.

According to Russian officials, they didn't expect that a key unit of Georgian intelligence trained by top NATO specialists would drive directly into their hands. The Georgian officers were overtaken without causalities.

"We knew there was a lot of negligence going on in the Georgian army, but not to this degree," one well-known, highly-positioned Russian general told me, who didn't want to reveal he is currently stationed in Georgia.

There were also three Arabs among the 20-odd Georgians. The Russian military is interrogating the officers who say they didn't intend to blow anything up. All the artillery in the vehicle was there by chance, they say. They forgot to unload the Hummers before departing. They had arrived together in such a large number to carefully study the situation in the port city.
It's likely NATO will have to re-encode their entire military and space system after the operation, which will be costly. This will certainly give them something to think about: Are closer military relations with Georgia and Ukraine really worth the hassle?



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posted on Aug, 29 2008 @ 08:34 AM
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Hmm why would there be satellite technology in a Hummer?!

I think the "interesting" reference is something of a stab in the dark... just to get the yanks scared that some top-secret intel might have been placed in the hummers under the auspices of a black op.



posted on Aug, 29 2008 @ 08:38 AM
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Based on the above article it seems to be some satillite communications technology, as the author states nato may need to re-encode all their security after the Russians have gotten hold of it.

I saw another interesting article but I can't remember where that for some reason a whole lot of pretty secret stuff was clearly broadcasted out of isreal which could be picked up by anyone with a satillite dish. The video stream was from some command centre in isreal while they were running tests or something. The article stated that you could hear password phrases being used clearly over the broadcast.

One other article (i'll have to find the link somewhere) also mentioned Russia had obtained all the equipment used to operate the Harmes 450 UAV's form somewhere in Georgia. That article went on to say that with the Russian's having access to this equipment they will be able to decode all the frequencies used by that model UAV.

All very interesting indeed.



posted on Aug, 29 2008 @ 08:44 AM
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My guess at the NATO satillite technology is probably some uplink/downlink data feed to get satilite reconnaisance photos (although obviously didn't help them to not get caught) or using remote feeds from UAv bounced up to satillite and back down to recievers. Or maybe just sat phone equipment to keep in contact with CIA/Mossad/MI6 headquarters. I'm just speculating here but wouldn't surprise me. And obviously the Russians would love to tap that line!



posted on Aug, 29 2008 @ 08:44 AM
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Nice thread, we all know, that russia are well capable of doing many things. So it is interesting to see this article.



posted on Aug, 29 2008 @ 08:48 AM
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Ah like a modern day Enigma machine... strewth if it is such a device then NATO is in big trouble.

It doesnt really matter anyhow that Russians are gaining intel. Its not like a conflict will ever occur between the West and Russia... thank god and project manhattan for nuclear weapons and mutually assured destruction!



posted on Aug, 29 2008 @ 01:11 PM
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This sounds just a little too convenient for Russia. Negligence on behalf of the Georgians doesn't even begin to describe it.

"That was easy... almost too easy."

Perhaps the West intended for that material to fall into the Russian's hands? Maybe the "information" they obtained was in fact... disinformation?



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