Pending US air strike on Iran: Dutch intel agents withdrawn, page 2

reply to post by Hot_Wings

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like this you mean

THE MOLOTOV-RIBBENTROP PACT

From an outside source

The day after the signing of the German-Soviet Nonaggression Pact of 23 August 1939 Soviet and German newspapers carried the news and text of the treaty to a stunned Europe. However, from the very beginning there was well-founded suspicion that the Pact contained more than met the eye. According to Richard Maasing, an officer in the Estonian general staff, the Estonian military had realized by 26 August that the Pact divided the Baltic States into German and Soviet spheres of interest and that Estonia had been assigned to the latter. It seems that the Latvian diplomatic service also learned of the contents of the Pact soon after the signing and that rumors about Germany turning over Latvia to Russia proliferated.1 Thus, while the exact contents of the secret protocol of 23 August and the subsequent secret arrangements of 28 September 1939 were unknown to the governments of the Baltic states, and knowledge of the texts was restricted to a small number of German and Soviet officials, the general outline of the agreements on "spheres of influence" was either known or strongly suspected very soon after they were concluded.

Moreover, despite the provisions on strict secrecy, Stalin and Molotov leaked the fact of their secret agreement with the Germans on the spheres of influence during negotiations with Baltic leaders in Moscow as part of the Soviet strategy of pressuring the Baltic governments into accepting the mutual defense pacts with the USSR. This is confirmed by a number of different sources, including the Lithuanian Foreign Minister Juozas Urbšys and Gen. Stasys Raštikis, the Commander of the Lithuanian Armed Forces during the negotiations in Moscow in early October 1939.2 The Soviets informed the Germans of their indiscretion; the leaks to the Baltic ministers irritated the Germans who clumsily attempted to diminish the importance of the secret Pact provisions in their replies to the astonished and perturbed Baltic representatives.3 It is inconceivable that news of the German-Soviet horsetrading concerning the Baltic states did not subsequently come to the attention of the Western powers.

i wonder who has decided what they are having and with whom???

david

reply to post by FreezeM

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Not only that, the drones we have can only carry a couple of small rockets at most and are only good for taking out personnel. Unless we're going to see what it was they've been flying around Stephensville TX lately, football field sized drones flying at mach 3 and loaded with bunker busters...

reply to post by mythatsabigprobe

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Don't get me wrong, I understand what the three of you are saying. I'm just saying we are talking about the U.S., a country who's government has NO PROBLEM going to all expenses to bring the most powerful and deadly weapons to existence. My point is, don't under-estimate what the US could have, that's all.

What's to say the states doesn't have a UAV that doesn't just deliver a payload, but IS the payload?

I mean, it's the US government - sneaky, coniving, lying, self-righeous bastards run amok !!!

Originally posted by princeofpeace
Plus doesnt congress have to authorize a strike on Iran? I dont see that happening at this point either.

Doesn't Bush and his "executive orders" negate congress?


[edit on 29/8/08 by Misfit]

reply to post by ressiv

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I would just like to ad that this newspaper is not taken very seriously in Holland. It is still best known as a NAZI newspaper in WOII.
They are not above making all this stuff up, just for the sake of selling newspapers.

It is still considered ultra-rightwing and they have to rectify newsstories all the time. Specially stories that where altertared to make minorities in Holland look bad. Something that has been going on since 2000 in our poor little country. More bad american import i'm afraid.

Lets put it like this, America has its "levels of terror", we have "de telegraaf" to keep us afraid.

Here is a link to a dutch blog that monitors rectifications.
correctie.wordpress.com...
The latest story they had to rectify also featueres an embellished, racially orientated news story.

The dutch are knee-deep into this mess though, so it could all still be real. We couldn't believe our American Allies would lie to us, so we supported the effort in Irak en Afganistan. Now that we know we've been lied to, we don't really know what to do. Usually thats reason enouch to just keep on doing what we're doing, and hope it all works out in the end.
If ya cant beat em.. in other words..

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