Originally posted by Sublime620
reply to post by DrZERO
What are you talking about? McCain and Obama will say very different things in their speeches. That's the point.
McCain will say many of the things that this country is tired of hearing... whereas Obama's entire speech was to inspire us. McCain will say we need
to stay the course in Iraq, where Obama says we need to set up time tables for withdrawal.
Why do you keep bringing up McCain?? I thought this thread was about Obama's speech? I'm sure McCain's speech will be just as sugar coated and
full of hot air and empty promises.
How do you know what Obama will do in regards to Iraq, to date he has already flip flopped on the subject to match voter opinion, just like Hillary
Neither one of them is going to pull a budget out on stage... never will they. And while you are correct that candidates are usually full of promises
(especially economically) that are never delivered, that doesn't mean that voting makes no difference.
Please quote me saying that voting does not make a difference (excluding the instance I mentioned below). If you mean there will be no difference if
Obama or McCain get elected then you are correct.
Had Bush not edged out Gore in the electoral votes, we'd never have occupied Iraq, and possibly would have cornered Osama in Afghanistan as we should
And you thought you lived in a Democracy. Let's see, Gore has the most popular votes and Bush took office, I guess that was one instance when voting
really didn't make much of a difference.
So no, I don't think Obama will be "business as usual in Washington". While some things may never change, all the things Bush screwed up can go
back to normal. And that's all I'm looking for.
You really need to read a book or two, although the Bush Administration are nothing less than criminals, the mess we are in has been decades in the
making, by republicans and democrats both.
I'm not looking for a Messiah... I'm looking for someone to fix Bush's giant cluster#*$# of a presidency.
Unfortunately this is the sentiment amongst many of the population. But most are not only looking for Obama to fix Bush's screw-ups, but their own
as well. Somewhere along the line people were convinced that it is the government’s job to solve all of your problems for you, and this was a big
talking point in Obama’s speech.
What? can't make the mortgage payment? vote Obama.
What? too much credit card debt? vote Obama
What? no money left over this year for Christmas gifts? vote Obama
What? the Earth getting to warm for you? vote Obama.
What? your kid is too stupid to pass 8th grade? Vote Obama.
Why? because Obams is going to fix everything, he said so in his speech!
I know the country is screwed up, but is electing a borderline Socialist president to redistribute the wealth really the answer? I know four years of
McCain isn't either but I decided during the last campaign cycle to stop voting for the lesser of 2 evils, Obama in this case.
I really wish we had a candidate that would recognize accountability and personal responsibility, but unfortunately no one would vote for him/her.
[edit on 30-8-2008 by DrZERO]