Obama Acceptance Speech

Loki, the New World Order framework consists of a partnership between politicians and select companies.

The goal is to control the world through one government via these partnerships.

The NWO companies are mainly your Green Energy companies and Investment banks.

Guess who is heavily funding Obama's campaign?? Green Energy companies (i.e. George Soros and Perseus LLC.) and investment banks (Goldman Sachs).

Guess what Obama promises these Green Energy companies? He promises them 800 Billion$ of your money to do useless and stalled research for a non-existant end-product.

Why do you stall research? To keep the money coming for new and additional research. You drag it out as long as possible to get as much money as possible.

This is what Obama wants to do for these companies that are heavily funding his campaign. Obama wants to take your money and keep giving them money making them rich beyond your wildest dreams.

Obama is lieing to you on his website and in his speeches. He is an experienced liar, because he's been doing it for a long time.

[edit on 29-8-2008 by jetxnet]

Originally posted by jetxnet
Loki, the New World Order framework consists of a partnership between politicians and select companies.

The goal is to control the world through one government via these partnerships.

The NWO companies are mainly your Green Energy companies and Investment banks.

Guess who is heavily funding Obama's campaign?? Green Energy companies (i.e. George Soros and Perseus LLC.) and investment banks (Goldman Sachs).

Guess what Obama promises these Green Energy companies? He promises them 800 Billion$ of your money to do useless and stalled research for a non-existant end-product.

Why do you stall research? To keep the money coming for new and additional research. You drag it out as long as possible to get as much money as possible.

This is what Obama wants to do for these companies that are heavily funding his campaign. Obama wants to take your money and keep giving them money making them rich beyond your wildest dreams.

Obama is lieing to you on his website and in his speeches. He is an experienced liar, because he's been doing it for a long time.

[edit on 29-8-2008 by jetxnet]

News Flash. Politicians lie sometimes. Find me one that hasn't ever lied or bent the truth and I will give you 9 million dollars. Go on. My checkbook is waiting.

The point is that Green Engergy has stalled out. The Republican party is divided into two factions. The faction in the pocket of the Church, and the faction in the pocket of Military Industrial complex (Which IKE EISENHOWER warned us about, by the way) and Energy companies. Neither of these factions supports or wants Green Energy or any other sort of energy besides fossil fuels to become economically viable. Barack Obama does.

Here are some of the companies in Perseus' portfolio.

Clean Energy Fuels Corp.

Clean Energy is the largest provider of vehicular natural gas (CNG and LNG) as an alternative fuel in North America.

www.cleanenergyfuels.com


NxtPhase T&D Corporation

NxtPhase develops and markets digital disturbance recorders, data collection and disturbance analysis software, fiber optic current and voltage sensors used in the control and measurement of electricity by utilities, and digital relays for high-voltage transmission line and transformer protection.

www.nxtphase.com

SEVA Energie AG

SEVA Energie AG is a producer of combined heat and power generation units that use biogas.

www.seva.de

Westport Innovations Inc.

TSX: WPT

Westport Innovations develops technologies to allow commercial fleet engines to use clean-burning fuels, such as liquefied and compressed natural gas, hydrogen, and hydrogen-enriched compressed natural gas.

www.westport.com

Basically, you're taking Obama to task for being serious about our energy crisis? Fossil Fuels are a relic. We are poised to move beyond the necessity of raping our planet to power civilization. Sounds like a new world order, only because it would destroy the existing world order. A conglomeration of oil companies, corruption, blood and excess.


And really, I think you should look into Obama. He has plans for the education system. If you have children, I beg of you...vote Obama. I'm sick of living in a nation of braindead hatemongers.

Basically, you're taking Obama to task for being serious about our energy crisis

Thanks for making my point about Green Energy companies in close affiliation with Obama.

It's all about money and power, Loki. Obama isn't any different, it's just he has a different look that is more deceptive. If you get to the nuts and bolts of things, you'll find he is a Marxist radical bent on achieving power in a nation which he is not even a natural born citizen.

Did you know he had the Communist party flag hanging on the wall of his Harvard dorm-room? It's true.

Obama wants to control every aspect of everyone's lives and this is already apparent. He will take your civil liberties from you quickly and have you become dependent on his government.

Is that really what you want? To barely get by and become subserviant to the government?? Do you want competition surpressed (which produces innovation) and, instead, have a one-demensional government controlled socieity?

Education? Will it be the same kind of education as China's President is reforming in China by having his "commandments" listed on the walls in hallways and classrooms?

Sound arrogant and like a dictatorship? It should, because that's what Obama is about. Dictatorships can only happen in a Marxist regime. It does not happen in a Democratic Republic.

Now do you see why Obama is even too liberal (a.k.a Marxist) for many liberal Senators?

He's dangerous for our American Republic which has given you the quality of life you have now.

reply to post by skeptic1


obama writes his own speeches

Originally posted by Grafilthy

just like I would not forgive Ayers, who supports violence against the innocent

Got ya.

Still generalizations though, and warmongers are NOT "innocent" (that includes people who support them).

Someone give me a direct example of how Bill Ayres is any more of a "terrorist" than my little sister. What has he done that would make you call him a "terrorist"???

What they were doing back then was a direct response to the peoples wishes being ignored. He had a cause. He also never hurt anyone. The Weathermen wanted the people of the U.S. to SEE what an actual explosion LOOKED like because there are so many people walking around wearing red, white, and blue blindfolds they have NO IDEA WHAT WAR LOOKS LIKE. They just were sick of being ignored.

How do you think revolutions are started anyways?

Following the status quo?

In this case, Charles Manson is not a murderer, because he simply founded "the family'' who actually killed. Ayers' followers bombed buildings. He supported, and still supports, their acts.

Originally posted by Anonymous ATS
reply to post by skeptic1

 

obama writes his own speeches

Yet he can't deliver them without a tele-prompt.

He can't even take part in a simple interview without a tele-prompt.



[edit on 30-8-2008 by wutone]

Obama = Communism = Just more of the same lame politics. He's for change alright, what you will have left after taxes in you pocket!


Is that What America has come to? You Elect people to represent your beliefs

Pelosi, Reid, Murtha, Kennedy, Clinton - all card carrying members of the American Socialist Party - er. Democratic Party.

Look it up, I'm tired of trying to convince people

Neocons are not taking over America, the Communists have. The New World Order is based on Totalitarian Rule like the Communist Manifesto!

It started long before most on this board was born.

I voting for McCain and Palin - Liberal and a True Conservative from outside the Washington Beltway.

Vote Conservative in America, maybe then we can Change things!

I'm VDOG.45 and I approve this message

reply to post by wutone


Proof please, because your Troll Score is getting sky high.

The man is a Harvard-educated trial lawyer.

I -think- he -might- have delivered a speech from memory a time or two, as it's required in any collegiate speech class above 101

Hush now



The adults are talking.

[edit on 8-30-2008 by Loki]

So all you right winger post on the ATS who think it was a dismal failure...guess what? he had more than 38,000,000 viewers during his speech. That's more than tuned in to the olympic opening events...more than tuned in to the finals for the American Idol...and a football stadium packed to the rafters with moret han 85,000 people; more than half regular ordinary citizens let in for free. He gives the most amazing speech ever and you poor saps come on here and give us the talking points from gop dot com. Desperato....Even the political experts from both sides called it an epic moment in American history, but not you guys...

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reply to post by wutone


Have you not noticed that every person on television or speaking at any event uses a teleprompter or note cards. Have you ever given any kind of speach before? Teleprompters and note cards are there to help keep your place and keep you on time and on track. It should not be a sign of incompetence or inhability to speak without them.

But if you want to focus on this kind of stuff for judging whether or not someone has the skills to lead, then so be it. But I tend to think that focusing on their record or the actual words they are saying is more important than the techinical issues with regards to teleprompters and note cards while giving a speech.

reply to post by jetxnet


I love how you can speculate on all these horrible things the Democrats MIGHT do once in office but I can give you fact of horrible things that Repbulicans HAVE done.

Republicans
-Majority in Congress from 1992-2006
-Republican President 20 of the last 28 years

Yet everything is the Democrats fault? How does your logic lead you to beleive that the Democrats are the ones to blame.

The current state of this country is the result of Republican agendas. Please try to prove to me how the Democrats are at fault for anything that is happening in this country? 8 years of Clinton, 20 years of Bushes and Regan. 2 years of a Democratic congress, 14 years of a Republican congress and 6 of those years they also had a Republican president who only vetoed one bill of theirs.(Stem Cell Research). The Republicans could pass all the legislation they wanted for 6 years unabaited by a president and you are blaming Democrats? Why didnt the Republicans do something about gas prices when they started sky rocketing 7 years ago? Why have their been more Government bailouts of large corporations in the last 7 years since the savings and loan scandal in the 80s.(During the tenure of another Republican President). Republicans always say "the market will fix itself", "thats capitalism", yet they are responsible for bailing out most of these corporations that should have been allowed to fail.

Source

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[edit on 30-8-2008 by iamcamouflage]

Originally posted by iamcamouflage
reply to post by jetxnet

 

I love how you can speculate on all these horrible things the Democrats MIGHT do once in office but I can give you fact of horrible things that Repbulicans HAVE done.

Republicans
-Majority in Congress from 1992-2006
-Republican President 20 of the last 28 years

Yet everything is the Democrats fault? How does your logic lead you to beleive that the Democrats are the ones to blame.

The current state of this country is the result of Republican agendas. Please try to prove to me how the Democrats are at fault for anything that is happening in this country? 8 years of Clinton, 20 years of Bushes and Regan. 2 years of a Democratic congress, 14 years of a Republican congress and 6 of those years they also had a Republican president who only vetoed one bill of theirs.(Stem Cell Research). The Republicans could pass all the legislation they wanted for 6 years unabaited by a president and you are blaming Democrats? Why didnt the Republicans do something about gas prices when they started sky rocketing 7 years ago? Why have their been more Government bailouts of large corporations in the last 7 years since the savings and loan scandal in the 80s.(During the tenure of another Republican President). Republicans always say "the market will fix itself", "thats capitalism", yet they are responsible for bailing out most of these corporations that should have been allowed to fail.

Source

[edit on 30-8-2008 by iamcamouflage]

[edit on 30-8-2008 by iamcamouflage]



[edit on 30-8-2008 by iamcamouflage]

By all means, Vote DEMOCRAT then - Push the Communist, Politically Correct Manifesto down the Worlds peoples throats...

That is exactly what Karl Marx wanted.

The result of trickle down economics (Reaganomics) was what bore fruit during the Clinton years!

During my lifetime I've seen both Republican and Democrat Presidents starting with John F. Kennedy.

I went into the Military under Jimmy Carter, thankfully he lost the next election - people got smarter and learned being a pacifist doesn't work in the long run.

If I am a neocon because I believe in the right to life, the right to better myself, the right to take care of my family, the right to make money from hard work, then so be it.

I won't be standing in any line waiting for a handout from anyone. I make my own destiny not from some sniveling, Conniving POS from Harvard!

Go ahead and vote for your Obomination (Abomination)

I'm off to buy more rations and ammunition now..........

reply to post by VDOG.45


You seem like a very angry man. You say you believe in the right to life, does this view apply to everyone?
Are you aware of the rights that you have lost under the Bush administration? Have you ever heard of Iran/Contra? What about the numerous corporate bailouts under Republican control? Are corporate bailouts part of the capitalist system?

Can you site where Democrats have pushed for a communist system? I can see that they lean towards socialist programs, but does that mean that you are against; state and local police, fire department, public transportation, public schools, roads, museums, parks, financial aid for students, social security, Medicare/Medicade, Big Brothers and Big Sisters, and Universities?

You have never recieved any thing from the government? You made your way without any interaction from the govt? You say you were in the Military, would you prefer that we privatize the entire military force? The benefits that you receive for being in the military far out way what a private organization could provide you with.

Its real sad to read the comments,especially on this site. Whether you are Rep,Dem, or independent. But it seems that if Obama were to be successful it would force change.. A change in the minds of Everyone and how they perceive themselves and others (From those with high concentrations of melanin to those with lower concentrations) and to admit We all are puppets repeating what our puppeteer programs us to say.I have yet to read an intelligent credible point and I happen to admire Herbert Walker and Walker aka Texas Sanford and Son, not for what they have done but for their intelligence. If you don't understand start with reading the art of war........

reply to post by Carib194


I will reply to you with a quote from Benjamin Franklin

Admiration is the daughter of ignorance.

Maybe society should advance past the art of war and into the art of diplomacy. Should we really use a book written 2600 years ago as the justication for wars today? Interesting how the first chapter of The Art of War is planning when maybe it should be diplomacy. Fighting and war should never be the first option. You would be surprised what you can accomplish when you talk to people.

Obama is what USA needs. Finally someone that represents the low income / middle class and not only the mega rich and the shady corporations like Bush/McCain.

I think Americans are smarter than voting for a 3rd term of Bush/McCain. McCain who think you're middle class if you're earning 4,9 million usd per YEAR. What planet is this guy from? He lives in his own pink mega rich world.

It's time to restore the economy for the average American and bring back hope.

Originally posted by Loki
reply to post by wutone

 

Proof please, because your Troll Score is getting sky high.

[edit on 8-30-2008 by Loki]

www.youtube.com...

Does this increase my troll score?

Originally posted by iamcamouflage
reply to post by wutone

 

But if you want to focus on this kind of stuff for judging whether or not someone has the skills to lead, then so be it. But I tend to think that focusing on their record or the actual words they are saying is more important than the techinical issues with regards to teleprompters and note cards while giving a speech.

So what is Obama's actual record? Does his record make him qualified to be President?

As Geraldine Ferraro stated...

"If Obama was a white man, he would not be in this position. And if he was a woman he would not be in this position. He happens to be very lucky to be who he is. And the country is caught up in the concept."

Almost every democrat in the primaries has much more qualifications to be President than Obama.

There is only ONE reason why Obama beat them all, he got nearly all the black vote, I wonder why?

Policy wise, Obama talks a lot about a "new direction", yet Obama has voted with Pelosi and Reid more than 90% of the time. Is that the new direction, going with Democrat dinosaurs that brought the congress to single digit approval ratings? Is that change? Is that getting away from old Washington politics that he so "skillfully" blasted Hillary with?

Obama is all empty promises. He wants more jobs in the U.S. but votes with the people who wants to raise taxes on the job creators and chase them overseas.

Obama wants clean energy but votes along with the people who have constantly gone against building nuclear power plants.

Obama wants to give tax cuts to 95% of Americans but he will turn around and tax the hell out of corporations who will pass those taxes on to the 95% of Americans that he supposedly wants to help.(Or they can move overseas and deny those 95% of Americans real jobs.)

Obama wants to work with allies, yet he declared that he would invade Pakistan. What a truly skillful statement by someone who wants to be President.

Obama is full of hot air. He is a creation of the media. He is a benefactor of the Democrat party voter demographics.

Originally posted by VDOG.45
Obama = Communism = Just more of the same lame politics. He's for change alright, what you will have left after taxes in you pocket!


Is that What America has come to? You Elect people to represent your beliefs

Pelosi, Reid, Murtha, Kennedy, Clinton - all card carrying members of the American Socialist Party - er. Democratic Party.

Look it up, I'm tired of trying to convince people

Neocons are not taking over America, the Communists have. The New World Order is based on Totalitarian Rule like the Communist Manifesto!

It started long before most on this board was born.

I voting for McCain and Palin - Liberal and a True Conservative from outside the Washington Beltway.

Vote Conservative in America, maybe then we can Change things!

I'm VDOG.45 and I approve this message

Ya change things indeed...

HOW HAVE WE FAIRED SO FAR WITH ALL CONSERVATISM?

So after reading through 8 pages of peoples comments, beliefs and thoughts. Please correct me on any inaccuracy.

1. People who are R or D will be R or D almost without thought and will find whatever reasoning they want to justify being such. This is sad because we live in a country that was designed for the people to THINK for themselves and to elect people that they believe in. By being a diehard R or D you have basicly said you know the answer to any question, before the question is asked the question itself by siding with your respective party instead of evaluating the choice yourself.

2. Politics = lies. Just who do you believe more.

3. The common people always pay for everything. Whether its thru direct taxes, increased costs, decreased pay..... Its how much gets lost in the middle. Personally I would rather not have big corps being bailed out and given giant tax breaks, the problem with the Trickle Down is the trickle part, all the drops got soaked up on the way down.

Without quoting to save space.
1 On Obama's exp. Did Lincoln have enough exp.? CNN stated in the broadcast that Obama and Lincoln have the same political exp. up until this point in thier careers.
2 Since when do R want change of anything?
3 Clinton years of good economy had more to do with the internet boom then with Trickle down. What we went 88 to 92 with nothing before the benefit of 80 to 88's decisions? Really?
4 The whole what did Clinton do for Terrorism Comments? Well lets see how often do we have massive attacks...thinking...Bush, FAIL of epic proportions(but thats a whole different discussion)


Now as for my 2 cents on the topic at hand
The speech was good, not great, but good. This is his first official speech to the country as the nom. He had to be broad, he had a lot of different issues to touch on and people will only listen for so long at a time(General Public anyway). To get to spec. with 2 months of interviews, debates,... to go would be stupid on his part. It would open the door for his opp. to counterattack right away, he is only jabbing right now, no reason for uppercuts. I am curious to see Mc speech. However, in my mind he is setback because he is a part of the war machine. I did not want Bush to win either time(He comes across as an idiot at times and I really don't want the world to think that we are all that way). I did not want to go into Iraq, I argued this with everyone I knew and they all thought I was an idiot, I am still waiting for the WMD's. I think Mc is from a different era then we are in today. Just as JFK was different compared to the people around him in DC at the time, NO I am not comparing Obama to JFK. In todays world we should be able to resolve problems without bombs at times. I view Mc as being out of the warhawk circle and for me he has to dig himself out just as Obama has to validate himself. Lastly, only thing I was a little surprised about the speech was that I did not hear any comments directed to the people that would be affected by the coming hurricane.