Obama Acceptance Speech

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posted on Aug, 29 2008 @ 08:13 AM
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Are you serious? So, McCain times in a POW camp wasn't an injustice?

Also, if yore so sure Obama can make "change", why cant you articulate what change is or what hes going to do?






Well hey, thanks for destroying your own credibility for me. Makes the job a lot easier.


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posted on Aug, 29 2008 @ 08:27 AM
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The following is my opinion as a member participating in this discussion.


reply to post by jamie83
 



Originally posted by jamie83
Ah... more self-projection.

Not according to the 80% of Americans who believe the country is moving in the wrong direction.



Believe it or not, the number of people who read this ATS forum is tiny and completely 100% irrelevant in any scheme of things. I am not attempting to negate anything, nor could I if that were my intention.

But you certainly give it your all, don't you?

BTW, where have you been for the past few weeks? Did Carl Rove's check bounce? j/k




I was just speculating about the strategy behind the speech. It seemed like it was written to shore up the Democratic base rather than go after the undecided voters. Like Biden said, they can't win if they don't win Pennsylvania. Obama did HORRIBLE in PA against Clinton. I personally know dozens of middle class PA voters who are Democrats, who voted for Clinton, and who claim passionately that they will vote for McCain.

I'm sure there are some, but then they really aren't voting for a platform then are they? They were only a fan of Hillary. Not that there is anything wrong with that.

For me, I do believe this country is headed in the wrong direction. The corporate lobbyists and special interests are running Washington and that needs to stop. Obama may be the first 1/2 Afro American candidate, but more importantly, he is the first candidate to reject funding from Lobbyists, which shows that he does "get it", and is a good start to correcting this situation. He also promised to reverse any presidential orders that "trample on liberty", which again is a good start to changing the direction that our previous leadership has taken.



What I'm saying is that this speech was more for them than for anybody else. In fact, the entire convention was crafted to win Hillary supporters over to Obama. Personally, I think he's in deep trouble because you are going to see a defection of Democratic voters like you haven't seen since Reagan won in 1984.

More wishful thinking. Let me ask you, knowing that this rift could be a problem, how would you do anything different than how this convention was planned out? There is nothing wrong with trying to unify the party.



Maybe I'm wrong, but Obama can't win without 100% of the Democratic vote.

No one has ever had 100% of any party. There will always be those that don't like a candidate. What I expect to happen is he will have the support of 80% of the party, but I see more registered voters going out to vote this year. He should be able to make up more than any loss due to the Clinton factor. If the speech he gave last night doesn't motivate them to go out and vote, then I don't know what will.

As an ATS Staff Member, I will not moderate in threads such as this where I have participated as a member.


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posted on Aug, 29 2008 @ 08:37 AM
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Yes, do you know what devine providence is. Look it up!



posted on Aug, 29 2008 @ 08:39 AM
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Anyone who didn't see this profile vid. should really check it out especially those who are so negative about Obama. This guy is keeping the american promise alive.



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posted on Aug, 29 2008 @ 08:42 AM
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Kind of funny .. he gives you substance and you say there is none. He has his family on stage ( like everyone before him ) and you say they are props. Can you be more ignorant or is it that you have a brain injury?



posted on Aug, 29 2008 @ 08:42 AM
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Kind of funny .. he gives you substance and you say there is none. He has his family on stage ( like everyone before him ) and you say they are props. Can you be more ignorant or is it that you have a brain injury?



posted on Aug, 29 2008 @ 08:44 AM
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Were you watching the same speech I was?



posted on Aug, 29 2008 @ 08:53 AM
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My GOD!!!
There are so many people drinking this sh*t up!
I guess I'm right to be losing all hope and faith in humanity. People are simply too stupid to think for themselves.
Do any of you "Supporters" really grasp the fact that there will NOT be any change at all!? It is going to be another 4 years of sliding toward the Corporatocracy because that is what his handlers have architected.

My God, this country continues to sink down the Sh*tter and the mouth-breathing sheeple believe anything and everything that their told - even when they are told NOTHING -as in Obama bin Biden's speech last night!
I think I might need to look into buying 100 acres of land in nowheresville Canada. I sure the hell don't want to be around when this thing reaches it's endgame.



posted on Aug, 29 2008 @ 09:07 AM
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Here is his speech in transcript form. Sorry if anyone has posted this already but I didn't see it in a quick look.



posted on Aug, 29 2008 @ 09:14 AM
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Originally posted by jetxnet
Good point Cree, and wow, if this thread wasn't hi-jacked by flaming Liberals drinking the Obama Kool-aid.

Obama will take your civil liberties from you. He will tax you, alot. He will make you dependent on large government. He will attempt to control the Internet through the MSM and Google etc. - who are already backing him for that monopolizing legislation.

America, the most successful country in the world and still is, will be but a distant memory if Obama becomes elected.

Wake-up! Obama is lieing to you!


Oh my gosh ...where have you been ...Bush has done a great job of doing those very things already .....MCCain will just continue with the same ....

Not saying Obama will be any Diff ..Because I believe they are all on the same page with the NWO agenda ....



posted on Aug, 29 2008 @ 09:15 AM
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posted on Aug, 29 2008 @ 09:17 AM
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Surely we can all agree that ALL Politicians tell you what you want to hear ..And NONE of them do anything they say they are gonna do ...
In fact they do the opposite of what they say they are gonna do ..

Thats what bothers me the most ..they are all liars ...



posted on Aug, 29 2008 @ 09:30 AM
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posted on Aug, 29 2008 @ 09:30 AM
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News flash but we already live in a hybrid socialist state and have since WWII. This country is full of socialist programs, services and institutions. Socialism is somehow a bad word but I think its finding a balance between capitalism and socialism that creates some of the best societies.



posted on Aug, 29 2008 @ 09:39 AM
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You must be a very wealthy man. I mean if you are afraid of Obamas tax plan putting a dent in your wallet. 90% of the US population makes under $100,000 and 98% make under $200,000 per year. Obamas tax plan will only affect the top 5% of the population, focusing mainly on the top 2%.

Source



posted on Aug, 29 2008 @ 09:40 AM
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Yeah, I was about to post but was reading it and gotta say, take away the "great show" he apparently put on (I don't tend to fall for that crap.. a boring speech in line with a constitutional republic would have had my blood pumping with excitement.. I am out of my element though in this era I guess) and the speech REALLY falls flat.

Lots of bitching and moaning about the other party (can't say that I disagree, but find it funny considering he alluded to the fact we aren't a nation of whiners... THAT RIGHT THERE goes to show ya how out of touch he is with reality *we need healthcare blha blah.. we need you to make the employers raise minimum wage blah blah.. we need more food stamps so we don't have to cut off our internet and cable blah blah.. we got ourselves into debt and we don't want to pay it back, help us blah blah)




Our government should work for us, not against us. It should help us, not hurt us. It should ensure opportunity not just for those with the most money and influence, but for every American who's willing to work.

That's the promise of America – the idea that we are responsible for ourselves, but that we also rise or fall as one nation; the fundamental belief that I am my brother's keeper; I am my sister's keeper.



And here is some of that speech that sounds "good" to the ears of those who don't pay attention. Should should should and need need need, but then what??? "I am my brothers keeper; I am my sister's keeper"??


Blatant socialism.. You are NOT my brothers and sisters and not only do I NOT want you being my keepers, I don't want to be your keepers. I had one brother (RIP) and I have two sisters.. positions are filled and no more apps will be accepted.

Just look all through out this speech. It is there, it is in your face, It is the tiger jumping out of the rabbit's hat that someone alluded to yesterday. You just have to understand the hat is all.
Good luck everyone. I *think* we may be needing it more than ever.



posted on Aug, 29 2008 @ 09:47 AM
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I wouldn't say that you have given ME so much of a newsflash.. You are correct and here is a socialist pusher ready to cram more of the socialist bs down my throat whether I like it or not. I don't. I see the wisdom in what this country's foundation was intended to be. I liked what they wrote in the constitution and I like free market capitalism.

I think the newsflash to me is that so many admit it and welcome it despite the impositions it will make into not only my life, but each and every one of their lives as well all in the name of "we are one and each others keepers." Erase the families and individuality in favor of one society of ppl fitting into a pre cut mold. *excuse me while I go puke*

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posted on Aug, 29 2008 @ 10:07 AM
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Originally posted by Mercenary2007
Obama's Speech did absolutly nothing to sway my vote to him! I am the middle of the road independant that he's trying to reach and i see empty promises and to much anger coming from Obama!

You may be middle of the road, but you are clearly not undecided. You have already made up your mind before the speech and have been persuaded by the right to go along with another four years of Bush.. I mean McCain.

If McCain wins, will you apologize after four years of more of the same?

As an ATS Staff Member, I will not moderate in threads such as this where I have participated as a member.



posted on Aug, 29 2008 @ 11:03 AM
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Originally posted by yankeerose

84,000 people! I liked everything about his speech, and think he did a wonderful job!

I can not wait until Obama is MY President! There is a wave of change sweeping this country, and I can not afford another 4 years of Republican rule. I want to feel proud of my country again. I want to be able to pay my bills again. I want to stop worrying about loosing my home. I want to know that my disabled daughter will be able to get health care once she is too old for my policy. I want to know that if my son joins the military, his President will value his life and service. I JUST want to live and love and not have to worry about my Government being against me and my community.

May God Bless America by having Barak Obama as our President.


Hate to tell you this but you will be waiting a very long time. The $*it is about to hit the fan concerning Obama and William Ayers (which could actually result in charges being filed against Obama before the election), the Hilary followers are not all completely convinced and McCain still has an ace up the sleeve.



posted on Aug, 29 2008 @ 12:34 PM
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What are you objections to finding a balance with socialism and capitalism? Are you opposed to having a state/local police force? Fire department? Road/infrastructure? Healthcare? Social Security?

Do you feel the free market should be without any regulations? Whether it be environmental, or anti-trust. How do you feel about monopolies? What is your stance on govt bailouts of the banking system, airlines, etc. Should are financial markets be completely unregulated? Should the legal system be privatized?

Currently healthcare is privatized for the most part. But even if you have insurance you are still paying for those who dont, through increased premiums.

What is a free market solution for the current healthcare crisis?





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