Obama Acceptance Speech

reply to post by Hal9000


I am not saying it was a bad speech. It was just a "generic Democrat" speech. The man has great charisma, great oratory skills (or really good speech writers)......but, he was just a generic Democrat tonight.....not this great hope of change.

The debates will tell the tale. They mean a whole lot more than the "all fluff and not much stuff" speeches on the campaign trail and at the conventions.

That boys got a purty mouth. Other than gift of gab and fondness for socialism he is an empty suit imoa.

As for me, I'm ready for a major change and I'm impressed with the changes Obama offers the Country

I loved Obama's straight-foward, bring-it-on spirit when referring to the upcoming debates with McCain

Dynamic speech from a worthy Presidential candidate

reply to post by Hal9000


Interesting observations.

I would suggest that this speech didn't do a thing to change any McCain supporters' minds, and probably did little to sway middle of the road independents.

But your reaction will probably be typical of Dems reactions everywhere... which makes me wonder if Obama's camp knows he's in trouble for November and was forced to shore up the base in light of the Clinton rift.

Originally posted by ibelievewearenotalone


I loved Obama's straight-foward, bring-it-on spirit when referring to the upcoming debates with McCain

Interestingly enough, the Dems have been whining for months that only the issues should be debated, not the person.

And then Obama's challenge to McCain was that he would be eager to debate him on his temperament and judgment, not the issues.

reply to post by jamie83


I couldn't disagree more. I believe his speech was amazing! The build up to this is nothing more than a representation. It mirrors the feelings of those of us who believe that our country is at a crossroads of great import.

Personally, I think anyone would be remiss to play down how very important this election is to those who support Obama.


I was so very impressed with the entire night. His speech, his message, the whole gala.

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I just don't get why people buy the speeches when you can go to his website and look at the issues and see he is clearly not for what this country was origingally intended to be.

His socialist agenda is about as subtle as a giant sneaking around in the house of an elf. It is blatant and the fact that so many buy into his speeches and plastic smiles would make me if I and my children weren't going to be directly affected by the ignorance of the voters.

84,000 people! I liked everything about his speech, and think he did a wonderful job!

I can not wait until Obama is MY President! There is a wave of change sweeping this country, and I can not afford another 4 years of Republican rule. I want to feel proud of my country again. I want to be able to pay my bills again. I want to stop worrying about loosing my home. I want to know that my disabled daughter will be able to get health care once she is too old for my policy. I want to know that if my son joins the military, his President will value his life and service. I JUST want to live and love and not have to worry about my Government being against me and my community.

May God Bless America by having Barak Obama as our President.

I'll give him a B+.

But he'll need more than that to win the election.

By tomorrow, the news cycle will be all about McCain's VP choice. So the real question is what will voters remember from tonight's speech, say by Sunday?

I have a few additional observations:

VERY LILY-WHITE. (Yup, I said it. ) Did everyone catch the video before the speech? It had one message: White Middle America. Very fascinating approach.

But what really reveals the extent to which they are attempting to mold this image was in the selection of the the music at the end of his speech.......COUNTRY! On MSNBC they said it was the same music/song Bush used when he accepted his nomination.

Finally, I just saw McCain's television ad congratulating Obama. Equally slick.

This may actually prove to be a very entertaining general election.


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Originally posted by Quazga
reply to post by jamie83

 

I couldn't disagree more. I believe his speech was amazing!

Could you elaborate on what you found "amazing"?

I found it predictable and simply a rehashing of the same stump speech he's been giving for 18 months. I was expecting him to take it to a new level now that he's been selected to represent the party.

In fact, I still don't think he created a very clear vision for what he proposes to bring to the table if he were elected POTUS. There is a lot of rhetoric and platitudes, but no simple and clear vision.

For example, Reagan stood for less government, strong defense, lower taxes.

I still don't know what Obama stands for besides "I'm not like Bush and McCain is...."

Originally posted by yankeerose

84,000 people! I liked everything about his speech, and think he did a wonderful job!

I can not wait until Obama is MY President! There is a wave of change sweeping this country, and I can not afford another 4 years of Republican rule. I want to feel proud of my country again. I want to be able to pay my bills again. I want to stop worrying about loosing my home. I want to know that my disabled daughter will be able to get health care once she is too old for my policy. I want to know that if my son joins the military, his President will value his life and service. I JUST want to live and love and not have to worry about my Government being against me and my community.

May God Bless America by having Barak Obama as our President.

Yep, It is only through hope that we can find greatness.

Obama brings a huge change to the way we perceive what part we play in politics. I love the fact that we finally have a President of the People in my lifetime!

I enjoyed the speech. I'm not sure whether he or McCain can bring positive change back to this country.

Originally posted by Hal9000
Ah, more spin. You put out the suggestion that he is in trouble to try to negate the effects of a great speech. Sorry, your not fooling anyone.

Come election day, democrats will vote for their candidate, and hoping that Hillary supporters will not vote him, doesn't mean it will happen.

Ah... more self-projection. Believe it or not, the number of people who read this ATS forum is tiny and completely 100% irrelevant in any scheme of things. I am not attempting to negate anything, nor could I if that were my intention.

I was just speculating about the strategy behind the speech. It seemed like it was written to shore up the Democratic base rather than go after the undecided voters. Like Biden said, they can't win if they don't win Pennsylvania. Obama did HORRIBLE in PA against Clinton. I personally know dozens of middle class PA voters who are Democrats, who voted for Clinton, and who claim passionately that they will vote for McCain.

What I'm saying is that this speech was more for them than for anybody else. In fact, the entire convention was crafted to win Hillary supporters over to Obama. Personally, I think he's in deep trouble because you are going to see a defection of Democratic voters like you haven't seen since Reagan won in 1984.

Maybe I'm wrong, but Obama can't win without 100% of the Democratic vote.

Obama kicked ass. Period. You anti-bama's can grumble, bitch, moan, and hug your John McCain dolls all you want ...your boy is gonna get a good whuppin' in a couple months..then he can retire to one of his houses..if he can remember the address(s)

Seriously how can anyone vote for MCcain ....the same the same the same ..
They really have messed up this country ....our name ...our people ...our military men ...our banks ..our economy ..our family ...oh my ..I cant even discuss the rest of what I believe the Republicans have done to damage just about everything is so messed up ..I dont see how anyone can fix it .,Not even Obama can ..but he is all we have (once again ) to pick from ...the lesser of two evils as usual ....like it has always been and will continue to be ......that in and of itself says alot about our country [and it isnt good ]...and says alot about those who run it ..doesnt it ?

Anyone but McCain ........he is scary and mean ..he is another Bush (but not even funny ) ....(I know he has been through alot in Vietnam and I give him that ) ...but something about him bothers me alot ....

Originally posted by dragonseeker
Obama kicked ass. Period. You anti-bama's can grumble, bitch, moan, and hug your John McCain dolls all you want

...your boy is gonna get a good whuppin' in a couple months..then he can retire to one of his houses..if he can remember the address(s)

Any specific issues which you feel Obama kicked ass on or did you just like the McCain criticisms and the sound of Obama's voice?

Seriously, don't you think Hillary's speech was at least as good?

Definately one of the best American political speeches I've seen in my lifetime. Though I'm no Obama fan, I'll readily admit that he is one of the best speakers I've ever heard. As a proud Independent who hasn't voted for a Dem for President since '96, were it given by someone who I had faith in their abillity to realize all the promises made in it, I might be persuaded to vote Dem this year.

Aside from the few people I've seen fixated on teleprompters who tend to let Rush and Hannity do any critical thinking for them, a great speech is expected of him by anyone who'e ever heard him. He did not disapoint tonight.

Originally posted by jamie83

Originally posted by dragonseeker
Obama kicked ass. Period. You anti-bama's can grumble, bitch, moan, and hug your John McCain dolls all you want

...your boy is gonna get a good whuppin' in a couple months..then he can retire to one of his houses..if he can remember the address(s)

Any specific issues which you feel Obama kicked ass on or did you just like the McCain criticisms and the sound of Obama's voice?

Seriously, don't you think Hillary's speech was at least as good?

Hillary's speech was solid, I liked it, but Hillary doesn't inspire me. Obama does. Speeches are more than words; The oration makes it soar; the delivery of a speech is the rail on which the train of ideas(and ideals) travels. Hillary is good, but Obama has that element that hillary doesn't have; the extra yard on the fastball, if you will. Say what you want about his policies; anyone who comes to this board knows that the whole thing is a grand illusion, panacea for the masses. But, you look at this guy, and, at least, at this moment, he's not down with the program. If he were, no one in the establishment would want to oppose him, not really..not beyond maintaining the illusion of the 2 party system. Hell, he'd be better for the globalists than bill clinton was. The establishment is scared #less of him. That alone gives me hope that he might find a way to get on our side, not theirs..he may find all of us a way out. Maybe.

Edit: and, I might add, that part about personal responsibility was directly aimed at us(blacks)..if that resonates, and finally takes hold the way it should have long ago, my people find the character to go and do likewise, and, we put the pimps that use our issues to enrich themselves, people like sharpton and Jesse jackson, out of business. we won't need them. they are the past. I KNOW white america wants that.

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reply to post by yankeerose


Yes, Yankee Rose, I could not agree more. This was a wonderful example of what we have to look forward to.

"It's not that John McCain doesn't care, It's that he just doesn't get it!"-this line just hit the nail on the head. You listen to McCain and you don't hear the sort of awareness and respect for the average Joe like you can from Barack. Barack has the promise for change and vision for a greater future. This speech showed that he will bring these plans to fruition.

After I watched his profile I felt even more that this is the kind of American that needs to lead us into our future. He is great leader and mover.

Barack the vote, people!

light and love,
-anyone