Ok firstly sounds like a very nice quest and i wish you luck and look forward to reading about any experiences you may have

Secondly im really baffled by your post Counterrerroist, are you speaking metaphorically or have just had to much peyote, which by the way contains no cyanide or strychnine or other poisonus alkaloids.

Originally posted by counterterrorist
Very exciting. Can't wait to see your post. In northern Arizona in 1977 I tried the holy sacrament of the Hopi tribe -- which is peyote. BUT, BE CAREFUL, because the buds of the peyote cactus are filled with cyanide, and the 'veins' must be cut out or you'll poison yourself and die. With the dried buds, there's a white powder, which is cyanide, which must be scraped off.

The pictures throughout the southwest and in mexico of the indians dancing with a halo spectrum about them, is them being on peyote.

There's a real time portal for you in Arizona, all right, just be careful. However, this time portal is hallucinagenic and is in consciousness and percieved reality.

Better to have a 'guide'.

My down jacket disappeared from under a pool table in Flagstaff when I was on peyote ... someone stole it. Then I walked around all night when the temperature was about 5 degrees above zero, and walked intothe sheriffs station to say hello, since everything else was closed. They didn't care.

The rest of the night until dawn I watched the sliver of a moon washed over with ultraviolet light in waves, different colors of waves coming out of the stars, and spectrums reflecting in each snow crystal on the ground.

Never tried ectasy, have no idea what that's like. Peyote is the opposite of acid, however. Acid is cerebral and stacatto. Peyote is like being rooted in the earth. However, o.d.'s are different and don't want to go there.

Well if someone owns a helicopter and lives near the area i think they should go look for it but perhaps when im older i will go there and venture for it for myself.

Originally posted by divideby3
Thank you OP for posting this.

Growing up in Arizona and traveling around the state extensively, I have never heard this story. My father was one of these treasure hunters. I would spend weekends with my father heading out to old ghost towns in his FJ. Metal detectors beeping and digging through dirt, it was a great time and I learned alot.

It was and is folks like you that destroy history. Metal detecting is strictly forbidden in most all of southeast Arizona's protected lands. ALL ghost towns. Any form of relic hunting is strictly forbidden by the BLM.
I am not trying to bark, and im sure you were just a kid. Maybe the laws were different back then.
I have been an avid ghost town hunter and relic seeker for the better part of 12 years now. I take only photos. This ensures that future generations can enjoy what is there. Unlike other areas that have been vandalized and stolen from.
I believe he would keep the arch a secret. This is a code of ethics within the ghost towner community. We will tell NO ONE of a new find. And only drop subtle hints that someone in the "know" could pick up on. This keeps would-be thieves, weekend marauders and kids out of the place.
I know of two ghost towns that are preserved. So much so that there are windows in place (unbroken) and curtains still hanging. This one place at one time still had dinner ware sitting on the dinning room table as if someone just up and left. And if its a big enough find, then tell a museum or historical society so that they can take the necessary means to protect. OR just leave it out in the middle of the desert where you found it, well hidden beneath the mesquite tree's so that no satellites can ever see it.

My main point is that regardless of any mumbo jumbo going on at that site. He has protected it for whatever good reason.

Remember, take pictures and leave only foot prints.

PS. BLM does not even want people to remove trash thats 50 years old. It's now part of history. I am not joking.






[edit on 1-3-2010 by djmolecular]

I don't know why everyone assumes that such devices are time portals. Star Gates are teleportation devices that can achieve complete teleportation over great distances and through different star systems in the blink of an eye. It is not a time portal as much as a star gate that allows for interstellar travel possibilities.

While a Star Gate does conquer a time space element of travel, it is not a true time portal device as much as a Star Gate whereby one can travel off world and return.

Time portals would have no practical use except to traverse time. Such devices are not used in a portal fashion and as such, whatever is in Arizona is most likely a Star Gate and not a Time Portal into other times and places.

While discovering a Star Gate would be just as exciting, don't expect to traverse time with it like some time travel device that allows for travel back and forth in time space. It would still be a great find, but if it is a Star Gate, you will probably never ever get close enough to prove it because those in the know already know its there and will not allow you to confirm anything but abject failure to find anything.