no ghosts are real i saw one at tuntern abbey at night one night when i was there because it looked like a monk but was white and misty and walked across the grass into the abbey at night and then disappeared

it couldnt be anything else because i saw it with my own eyes and thats how it was

but i dont know about 9/11 and why there are no ghosts there becuase maybe there should but theres not

who knows why maybe they are there but they cannot be seen yet or something like that

Originally posted by Soulstone
I have seen what is needed to be seen. I now have faith such things exist. I have found the answer to my questions.

...wanna expand on that a little for us? Only if you're comfortable doing so of course...

...but certainly has me all interested to maybe hear any reason why - again, if you're willing to share...

ok as I said before I work in a shop that appears to be haunted...last Friday we had some very strange goings on....there is a flight of steps made out of steel leading upto the shop,and you can hear people walking on them when they go up or down them,well I was tidying some shelves and re-organising a display right at one end of the shop..I kept hearing footsteps on the stairs so,thinking a customer was entering the shop I kept going to the the counter which is near the stairs and there is no one there,I got so fed up with keep having to go to the counter I said to the lady who works in the office that I keep hearing what sounds like footsteps on the stairs and she said that she had been hearing that all morning before I came into work! We were the 2 only people in the building and she had been on her own prior to me coming into work.
Well eventually a customer did come into the shop and as I walked up one of the shop isles to serve them I heard an almighty crash like something breaking in the other isle,the customer was at the till and there was no one else in the shop at the time...thinking it maybe the display I had been re-organising I went to investigate to find an unbreakable glass that had somehow flown off the shelf half way up the isle with the stem broken on it! (I work in a caravan accessory shop-so have unbreakeable glasses and plates etc....) I hadn't even touched the glasses on that shelf!
Later after I had left, the other girl told me (the next time I was in work)that she were serving a customer and the radio that plays in the background went up really high,as she were the only one apart from the customer in the building at the time,invisible hands must have been at work....she said the customer looked at her and she looked at him and said its not me...lol...
As I said before we have alot of strange goings on in this shop and these are just some of the latest happenings that I thought I would share here..I guess the sceptics will tear this apart

[edit on 22-10-2008 by special]

Originally posted by Sonya610

Originally posted by dave420
It seems you've placed your own experiences on a pedestal of untouchability, as if they are never wrong, can never be misunderstood, and are always 100% accurate portrayals of

Actually it is like this Dave. You exist in MY reality. You ONLY exist in my reality. If you are not typing in response to my posts, or being broad minded if I do not read that which you have typed, you simply do not exist. So yeah, whatever I perceive is reality.

Prove me wrong. : )

Sonya, I absolutely love you lol. As I have put Dave420 on my ignore list I no longer see his posts and therefore he is no longer part of my reality. He simply ceased to exist with the click of a button.

As to whether ghost are real or not. IT IS MY OPINION that every one must make this decision on there own. I have seen numerous spirits for a long time, but the only prove I have are the few people that have been with me at the time. I to wonder why there haven't been reports of ghosts around the towers and other places. One way I see it is that it was simply there time to go and that is why there are no ghosts. Although in order to believe that I would think I would have to accept destiny and fate, and I am not ready to accept that yet.

If you want to see a ghost just dont belive in them if you think about it if u belive in them then they dont have a reason to show themselvs but if u dont belive in them and express it in a place that has had paranormal activity then you are more likely to see one since it will have a reason to show itself.

I personally have never seen a "ghost" but most of my family members said they seen them and I'm not saying little balls of light or glimpses out of their pripheral vision. I'm talking face-to-face, wide eyed encounters with them. I'd believe them before a person on the internet anyday of the week. I continously asked them every.....maybe year or two.....to repeat their encounters and they do word for word.

My uncle and mother had an encounter on the same night. It was late and my uncle and mother were sitting on the couch. My mother went to go to the bathroom past the kitchen and when she was to enter the bathroom and flip the switch, there was a "woman" floating in front of her( My mom said she had no feet) in what appeared to be a white night gown. My mom alo said she had no face. Just a sort of dark, misty, viel where her face should be. Obviously she ran away screaming for my uncle.

Right before my mom screamed, my uncle said, as he was sitting on the couch, he felt what appeared to be someone beginning to sit down. He looked and he saw an indent on the cushion next to him as if someone just sat down......but there was no one there. Right as my mom screamed, the indent disappeared and my uncle said he heard banging on the wall right above the couch where he was sitting as if someone was running across the wall.

Those sequence of events happened mere seconds apart.

My grandmother, on a different night, had an encounter with the same woman my mom saw I think. My grandma was sleeping and woke up because she had the urge to go to the bathroom. As she began to get up and unravel her covers, she stopped and saw a woman at the edge of her bed. My g-ma couldn't see if she had feet because the bed was blocking the view, but the "woman' had no face and described to me in similar details what it looked like. No definition with a black, misty veil over it. Like looking at darkness where her face should be. Same white gown.

I'll have to tell you how brave my g-ma is. She has always been fascinated by ghosts and said if she ever got the chance to talk to one, she'd do it. Well, my g-ma asked her something......dang...I forgot but it must have been something expectant such as "who are you" or "what do you want". The "ghost", in turn, disappeared. My g-ma then continued to get up and go to the bathroom and go back to bed. I know, I know. You're thinking: "How is she able to do this after seeing a "ghost"!!!". I asked her the same thing and she said it didn't bother her with the wave of her hand. Scared to death of mice but doesn't mind trying to talk to a ghost. God bless her.

I would trust my family with my life and I take pride in being able to believe them. If they were joking with me, they'd eventually tell me, but they stick by with what they said and I believe them.

Like I said before, I've never seen a ghost and I spent many nights alone in my grandma's house and never seen the "lady". However, I can't help but remember what they all told me whenever I got up to go to the bathroom......

Our inherently-flawed perception of everything around us should cause more accidents and deaths as the red light we see at an intersection is only a figment of our imagination and so is the truck in front of us on the road so no need to brake. The old lady with a walker is crossing the road and we swerve out of the way or stop for her because we see her. If we believe our perception is flawed then the old lady would be dead. Should we ignore the people and things we see in our daily lives because our perception is so inherently flawed? Sorry folks, eye witness accounts hold up in a court of law and get people put away. So unless someone is tripped out on drugs or alcohol, I would say that what is seen is credible enough for me.

I want to help, but to do so, I must ask a question..

Firstly..

What?

What exactly are you having a hard time believing? "Ghosts" aren't Real. I don't even know what that means. When you say 'Ghosts' what exactly are you talking about? There are so many competing theories about what 'Ghosts' really are that to simply say... "Nope, I don't believe in ANY of it" is to spit in the face of literally thousands of pieces of evidence, most of which I am not going to waste my time even discussing, because we all know so much of it by heart.

So, what aspects of the "Ghost" phenomenon are you having a hard time believing in?

Maybe the people killed in the world trade center were meant to die that day, and accepted it, and went to the light and moved on. The theory on ghosts is that when the living person died, they werent ready. They still had things to accomplish in their life or do, and they died before they had finished what they needed to accomplish, so they stay in our energy field, in our world, instead of moving onto heaven or whatever comes in the after life.

So thats one theory. Maybe world trade center was a day that was already pre-planned for the people who were there. Maybe it was just their time to do and they didnt want to hang around here anymore and were ready to pass on.

But give it a couple more years. You might just start to hear reports of hauntings when they build on top of the ruins of world trade center.