McCain VP Likely Decision, page 4

reply to post by TXMACHINEGUNDLR

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One thing I can say for certain: if there was an enthusiasm gap for McCain among conservatives, it just evaporated. Conservatives absolutely love this pick of a highly conservative running mate for McCain, and a woman, no less. I think this will be a gigantic positive for McCain among blue collar voters.

reply to post by truth_seeker3

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I think Romney would have been a mistake. The primary fight was just too nasty and much like is happening on the other side, their attacks on one another would've been used against them by the Dems. It also opens up the whole 'two rich white guys' argument. It probably would've been the richest ticket ever.

Pawlenty? I think the same argument could be made against him as Palin. People would be asking 'Who is this guy?' He's not a nationally known figure, either and would be seen as a dry, boring pick (and one who isn't as conservative as Palin). Palin, by virtue of her gender, generates a great deal of excitement simply on that basis, and at the very least, will lead a lot of women voters who might've been leaning toward Obama to take a 2nd look at the McCain/Palin ticket.

[edit on 29-8-2008 by vor78]

reply to post by truth_seeker3

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I tend to agree with that. I see nothing in Pawlenty's resume that Palin doesn't also bring to the table. She may even be a bit more conservative than he is, and her avid support of the NRA, hunting, fishing, etc, will play very, very well with blue collar voters. She looks an awful lot like one of them.

reply to post by vor78

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Because the economy is bad, I thought the Romney card would be used as Vice President. However, Mitt is an ambitious man and believes McCain is a one term president - he'll be 77 in 2012.

Same reason why Obama did not pick Hilary, why would you select your potential assassin?

Whatever you think, Sarah Palin has stolen the headlines from Obama. Today should of been American news discussing the Democratic National Convention, but the Republicans have worked the media VERY well.

reply to post by truth_seeker3

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Is it really fair to assume that women are so naive as to vote for someone based entirely on their gender. I'm sure there are some Hilary fans who will vote for McCain because of his VP choice but to think that women across the country will let their beliefs fall to the wayside in order to get a woman as VP is just silly. Lets not forget that Palin is hardcore pro-life and a lot of women want to have choices when it comes to their own bodies.

[edit on 29-8-2008 by iamcamouflage]

Originally posted by iamcamouflage
reply to post by truth_seeker3

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Is it really fair to assume that women are so naive as to vote for someone based entirely on their gender. I'm sure there are some Hilary fans who will vote for McCain because of his VP choice but to think that women across the country will let their beliefs fall to the wayside in order to get a woman as VP is just silly. Lets not forget that Palin is hardcore pro-life and a lot of women want to have choices when it comes to their own bodies.

[edit on 29-8-2008 by iamcamouflage]

TRUE! . Seriously. Single women and mothers who do not know much about politics will vote for the women. Oh look! A women for VP, lets go! The McCain camp stole the spotlight from Obama. Again. Good Job GOP.

reply to post by iamcamouflage

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You're right, but I think that its equally naive to believe that all women vote only based on the candidates' abortion stance.

This pick is not intended to appeal to the core of the Democratic party. McCain is going after blue-collar voters with this pick. Most of those people tend to be at least mildly conservative, and its a mistake to automatically believe that women in that group will automatically reject a pro-life ticket. An awful lot of them won't. In fact, many of them ARE pro-life.


[edit on 29-8-2008 by vor78]

reply to post by burdman30ott6

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Oh my goodness, you had me on the floor with that one. Definitely agree that it IS a improvement from Cheney. *shudders*. Even though I am more democratic, she would be a improvement from the current administration in attractiveness and in policy.

reply to post by iamcamouflage

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Serious question then, and no, this isn't an attempt at race baiting. If we're supposed to believe that this will backfire on the GOP and women voters are too smart to vote for McCain just because he's picked a woman veep, then what does that say about the almost unanimous loyalty the media touts of the black community towards Obama?

I've watched countless black voters interviwed and, almost without fail, I have yet to see a single one of the accurately describe a position or platform Obama has that is the reason for their support. They all throw out buzz words like "change", "dynamic", "energing", "invigorating" it makes Obama sound like a hell of an energy drink, but sure doesn't lay out any indication he'd actually make a decent president. Then there's the group that will bring up something like "bringing the troops home" when we all know Obama's position on that has changed, or they talk about Bush's attack on freedoms when we all know Obama supported the FISA bill which was supposedly a gross attack on our freedoms until the Dems supported it and then it was quietly swept under the rug by the Olbermans of the world lest their favorite politicos become exposed as frauds. The one constant to these interviews is the underlying reason why Obama has such support among blacks, they come really close to saying it outright but only rarely do these interviewed black voters actually say the words: "I'm supporting him because he's black, like me."

If we're gonna stand around and say "Women voters are too smart to simply vote for someone because she's a woman. The woman candidate MUST have a solid platform to stand on." then are we to assume that black voters aren't "too smart" to vote for a black candidate without a consistant platform? I'll remind you "change" is not a platform until you actually lay out what that change is and how we'll achieve it, which is something Obama has NOT done.

reply to post by burdman30ott6

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Because, to be quite honest here, the majority of black people by and large do not even vote in presidential elections.

It is safe to assume based on polling statistics that black who do vote this year will be overwhelmingly in favor of Barack Obama.

reply to post by BlackOps719

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Yes the African-American population will vote for Obama. I like your view on the way women and McCain. With a women on his side, he will get more votes. Practically, women will vote for women if they have a choice.

reply to post by truth_seeker3

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You are forgetting, she is hawt! Best pick he could have made by far, the libs are freaking out already calling her Quale, what tards.

reply to post by vor78

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I was not implying that abortion is the only issue that women vote on, I was only pointing out that issues should trump gender, race, religion. Abortion was only one example of an issue that directly impacts women.

reply to post by iamcamouflage

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I know women with opinions on abortion. Doesn't everyone?! Abortion and other issues like this will play a key role in this election.

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