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reply posted on 29-8-2008 @ 09:05 AM by Zepherian
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Originally posted by dunwichwitch
Originally posted by ipsedixit
As a person who is old enough to remember the civil rights movement and the anti-war movement of the '60's, I just want to say. Way to go, Alex and
9/11 Truth!!
I feel certain that things are going to get less and less polite as time goes by. I think that people who worry about decorum and the manners of
truthers don't realize what and who the truth movement is up against.
Politeness is a mistake. It can be finessed and filibustered endlessly. The way to go is to be effing rude. If rudeness doesn't work you have to walk
down that hard and painful road they walked in the '60's.
I love and hate Alex Jones.
While the human side of me says "Go Alex! Kick the media's ass! Make the hseepiesheepies hear the truth! Start a riot! Opressed, it's time to #ing
explode!"
The spiritual and philsophical side of me says that this will end with the same hand it started with if we do not change our mentality about how to
make THIS revolution stick. Instead of getting effing rude, maybe we should stop buying their slave labor in the form of money and feeding the
corporations with every little facet of our lives. Why do we have to get meaner and angrier until we kill each other when half of us don't agree or
are too afraid to side with us? That always happens, and it's going to be no different this time than it was the umpteenth time before. Just same #,
different era.
Growing balls is easier than growing compassion. One is born out of ego and pride, the other is born out of love. Stop using their slave money. Stop
buying their slave products. Stop paying their slave taxes. All of us.
I hope Alex Jones is going to go non-violent all the way, but I wouldn't be surprised if he became a secessionist union's leader or high ranking
official, if he advocated War just as much as the other Politicians that will try and take this side, only to sabotage it and eventually bring it back
in sync with the Elitist agenda. He claims to be and acts as though he is a non violent patriot, but with the way he presents himself, he stokes the
fires of his follower's hearts too much. Emotion canot take over here. This is why we have wars, because our emotions take over when powerful and
clever propaganda is spewed at us to make us yearn for a bloody fight.
If we could somehow topple the Elite's control by simply bringing them down to our level and showing that we are still capable of forgiving them and
helping them firsthand, maybe they would get a reality check better that way.
Although rioting and killing and snipers and militias and violent revolts looks cooler and feels more intense. Alex may be making emotional chained
wild animals ready to snap.
You speak the truth about A. Jones. I can hear in his voice his inner struggle between the rage that pushes him forward against totalitarism and the
knowledge which he has, as a father and son, that love is the only way to go. If he can stick to the infowars and mellow down over time he can save
his soul, so to speak.
But from what I hear in his voice he risks turning into the very thing he is fighting, as is always a risk when you're fighting instead of
loving.
Your solution is right, instead of fighting the matrix people need to break out of it and really, in the full meaning of the meme, wake up.
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reply posted on 29-8-2008 @ 09:06 AM by andy1033
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Originally posted by Boone 870
He reminds me of an old man who lives with 50 parrots and sits around the house all day yelling crazy things like "9/11 WAS AN INSIDE JOB", and then
the parrots do what parrots do, just like the parrots in that video.
You could be talking about, chris matthews there, and his obsession with obama. It was funny to see, and chris trying to ignore it.
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reply posted on 29-8-2008 @ 09:21 AM by Boone 870
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reply to post by Nola213
But I'm just pointing out that he was "leading by example in the Original clip, well the first one posted", and the crowd followed.
They did not parrot.
So what you're saying is that Alex Jones is the shepherd and the rest of the crowd are the sheep (sheeple), right?
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reply posted on 29-8-2008 @ 09:53 AM by lw2525
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On a "Sickening Scale" of 1 through 10, Chris Matthews scores a 900,000.
How does a human being even become that f'd up?
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reply posted on 29-8-2008 @ 09:54 AM by jboogienoj
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thats awesome!!! that's how to get their attention! good stuff Alex! that's what i'm talking about!! whooooooo this pumps me up....spread it!
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reply posted on 29-8-2008 @ 10:27 AM by ipsedixit
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The Dalai Lama is a lover not a fighter.
Bye bye Tibet.
Ho Chi Minh was a fighter not a lover.
Good morning Viet Nam!!!!!
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reply posted on 29-8-2008 @ 10:35 AM by AntisepticSkeptic
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Alex Jones once said in his shows:
“I wanna knock your teeth in.” and
“I wanna smash your head on the concrete…”
He is EVIL. He is not the good guy. He is an evil psycho sicko and a false leader too.
Here is an example: This as an audio clip from Alex Jones’ truly vile radio show. I figured it’s worth another post for the degree to which it
illustrates how ideological fanaticism can poison the mind. I’m sure you’ll agree it’s a truly incredible and frightening descent into the mind
of raving lunatic, who is so consumed with paranoia and violent fantasies of retribution against perceived (and largely invented) enemies, that he’s
on the verge of becoming incapable of functioning as a human being in a sane society.
As many have remarked, he’s got a genuinely Hitlerian mixture of insanity, evil, and sadism at work in his personality.
Keep in mind as you listen, that he’s actually trying to warn you about how dangerous neoconservatives allegedly are. Not far into it you’ll be in
little doubt that this “warning” is in fact some sort of desperate subconscious confession about the nature of his own political and personal
psychosis. Particularly when he says he wants rip out his opponents flesh with his bare teeth and begins snarling and growling in incomprehensible
tongues, totally overcome with sadistic delusions.
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reply posted on 29-8-2008 @ 10:37 AM by sos37
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As pointed out before, and you guys who really believe in Alex Jones' cause just don't seem to get this - Alex Jones DID NOT just do you a big
favor, he DID just do you guys a huge disservice, and on national TV. What he ended up doing was looking like a certified whacko on national
television, so that anyone watching is probably thinking "OMG those 9/11 truthers must all be like that. I guess they all need mental help!"
Don't you guys get it? One man disrupting an event like this representing an "organization" makes a crowd think he's nuts and think the
organization is a haven for lunatics.
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reply posted on 29-8-2008 @ 10:39 AM by talisman
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Alex is not hurting the Truth Movement, he is kicking it in its rear end and trying to wake people up to what is going on. Sure, he is not always the
most accurate, but is a "FIRE" in the movement that otherwise is left to endless babble on the NET in message forums, or boring talk show hosts who
put you to sleep after 2 minutes.
Alex, keeps you pumped and awake. If he was soft,kind and gentle he wouldn't be Alex anymore and this would be boring for a lot of people. There are
some serious things going on in the world, and Alex should scream all the more loud.
We are fine with people acting like LOONS at Football games, or Hockey games, because we are so warped by what is "LOONY" and what isn't. The fact
is, if he doesn't do what he does, then who does?
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reply posted on 29-8-2008 @ 10:54 AM by ipsedixit
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I imagine a lot of Massachusetts Yankees were slamming their windows shut and yelling at him to "Shut up!" the night Paul Revere went for his
ride.
Revere, Jones . . . being a pain in the ass is part of the job description. At this point in time, Jones and the We Are Change guys are right out at
the sharp end of where the truth movement has to go.
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reply posted on 29-8-2008 @ 11:04 AM by jenkwater
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I have a love hate relationship with Joneses style, he is obnoxious, hugely rude and horrible at fighting the system he hates so much but he is golden
when it comes to bringing attention to these oh so important subjects.
When he was following that woman around yelling and calling her a monster it was too funny for me to condemn it.
I heard an interview recently with him interviewing someone who was a proponent of carbon credits, well Alex put words into his mouth and would hardly
allowed him to speak. All I could think about during this interview was that if I had his platform I would allow a guest to explain their position
fully so the audience could actually absorb the information. If Alex allowed his guests to answer the questions I would have no problem with him
yelling and vilifying them afterwards(it is his show).
I will have to watch this one when I am off work!
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reply posted on 29-8-2008 @ 11:14 AM by Rotoplooker
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Originally posted by lw2525
On a "Sickening Scale" of 1 through 10, Chris Matthews scores a 900,000.
How does a human being even become that f'd up?
Just so I understand you correctly, if Chris Matthews is 900,000 on your scale, where do Sean Hannity and Rush Limbaugh rank?
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reply posted on 29-8-2008 @ 11:15 AM by bugs_n_recovery
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Originally posted by BlackOps719
That is awesome
Alex Jones is the man. He just never quits no matter what.....he is a real life American patriot to the last breath.
What?? I know this is ats but Is it as well bizaro world
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reply posted on 29-8-2008 @ 11:25 AM by ItsTheQuestion
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Originally posted by ChocoTaco369
Look....
Chris Matthews was hugely pro-Hillary and anti-Obama
You could not be more wrong on that statement. Chris Matthews is about as chauvinistic as any leftie could be. Can you cite ONE example of his
"pro-Hilary" bias? Impossible, because it was never there.
But that being said, I'll never understand why anyone in their right mind would love the fat anarchist Alex Jones.
Many on the left wonder the same about those who fawn over Rush. Of course, Limbaugh is no anarchist...he's something else entirely.
...I am extremely conservative and can't stand the very thought of large government or runaway government policy, but there's a difference
between standing against large government and hating all things government.
I can agree with you on that point. Except that you use the argument-killing word "all"...implying that Jones is the one that hates "all things
government". He doesn't hate his First Amendment rights, does he?
Alex Jones is nothing but a disgusting, disrespectful slob. The man is no different than Michael Moore in both the mentality and
physically.
Are you biased against fat people? Just asking...
He disgusts me on all levels as a human being.
I think you are...
He absolutely hates the United States government
He can't hate it that much. After all, he seems to be earning a, ahem, healthy living because of the existence of said government.
...the government that, despite its flaws, gives YOU the right of freedom of speech. The government that provides YOU with the freedom to
pursue any career path you want. The government that provides YOU with the freedom to criticize it in any peaceful way without
consequence.
I agree. So what's your problem with Jones, then? After all, our brilliant and time-tested Constitution guarantees Jones those very same
rights. Right?
Alex Jones is nothing more than a paranoid anarchist that hides it behind a smokescreen of being "patriotic." Hating the United States
government, wanting to tear down this country's credibility and showing nothing but disrespect to our leaders and the laws they make is NOT
patriotic. Alex Jones is a nutcase and thrives on chaos.
Capitalism thrives on this form of chaos, as well. The more fear the consumer feels, the more money he'll spend and borrow and owe...PROFIT!!!
He is truly a disgusting human being. He should be embarrassed to call himself an American.
EDIT - I'd also like to add that adding the word "Truth" to a movement made up of paranoid, delusional anarchists does not mean anything they stand
for is truthful. The "9/11 Truthers" have no proof to back up anything they say, and all the stuff has been debunked by countless sources 100 times
over. That's not to say that the government isn't hiding something, but to blatantly disrespect everything our nation stands for and to drag
America through the mud for the sake of anarchy is not admirable. It's disgusting.
You're attacking Jones for disrespect?! If you read my previous posts in this thread, you'll see I"m no supporter of his. In fact, I think his
personal agenda is a lot more subversive than even you. HOWEVER, I don't attack his obesity, nor his RIGHT to do what he does. Because I
SUPPORT OUR CONSTITUTION.
Given what you've revealed about yourself, ChocoTaco, I give you the benefit of the doubt that you, too, enjoy the freedoms that the Bill of Rights
grants you; I gather that you're an American citizen. That said, I suggest that you look deeper at Jones and the Jones phenomenon. Not so you can
agree with some of the very salient points he raises, but rather, for you to analyze the very nature of his protests.
And don't hate fat people. Our great nation could use your passion in many, many more useful and beneficial ways.
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reply posted on 29-8-2008 @ 11:34 AM by Klemperer
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Originally posted by sos37
As pointed out before, and you guys who really believe in Alex Jones' cause just don't seem to get this - Alex Jones DID NOT just do you a big
favor, he DID just do you guys a huge disservice, and on national TV. What he ended up doing was looking like a certified whacko on national
television, so that anyone watching is probably thinking "OMG those 9/11 truthers must all be like that. I guess they all need mental help!"
Don't you guys get it? One man disrupting an event like this representing an "organization" makes a crowd think he's nuts and think the
organization is a haven for lunatics.
Thank you! Thank you! Thank you!
And yes. And as for the whole "Ho Chi Mihn" analogy...history wrote Mihn as a vicious criminal, and he was ultimately murdered wasn't he? The Dalai
Lama is, for the most part, respected.
Malcolm X was a "fighter" but he fought in an intelligent, articulate, law abiding way. Why? Because he realized that the whole NOI tactic of
yelling and instigating only made enemies, and spawned zero support.
911 Truth needs articulate proponents: Nader, Ron Paul, Cynthia McKinney. Not...what we just saw on TV.
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reply posted on 29-8-2008 @ 11:36 AM by Klemperer
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Originally posted by ipsedixit
I imagine a lot of Massachusetts Yankees were slamming their windows shut and yelling at him to "Shut up!" the night Paul Revere went for his
ride.
Revere, Jones . . . being a pain in the ass is part of the job description. At this point in time, Jones and the We Are Change guys are right out at
the sharp end of where the truth movement has to go.
[edit on 29-8-2008 by ipsedixit]
What? Revere already had a reputable following and was considered an upstanding citizen. Also, on the eve of a major war with a common enemy, a
conflict everyone saw coming, the people were waiting for a signal.
To compare Paul Revere and Alex Jones is...a bizarre analogy.
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reply posted on 29-8-2008 @ 11:41 AM by ItsTheQuestion
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Originally posted by Rotoplooker
Originally posted by lw2525
On a "Sickening Scale" of 1 through 10, Chris Matthews scores a 900,000.
How does a human being even become that f'd up?
Just so I understand you correctly, if Chris Matthews is 900,000 on your scale, where do Sean Hannity and Rush Limbaugh rank?
-900,000?
There's no difference in magnitude.
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reply posted on 29-8-2008 @ 11:51 AM by justsomeboreddude
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LOL, the funniest part of this video is when Chris Matthews compared Barrak and Michelle Obama and their kids to the Huxtables. Like he couldnt have
just said they were a good looking family or something. The Huxtables.. hahahahahahah.... What an idiot.
IMHO, Alex Jones is an embarrassment to this country. Running around telling everyone, even the Russians, that this was an inside job with absolutely
no proof to back up his claim. They ought to lock him up in a nut house.
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reply posted on 29-8-2008 @ 12:49 PM by Anonymous ATS
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9/11 was an inside job", is that all you have to say, alex jones ? come on, tell us something we dont know. i'm all for the truth, but you have to
try better than disrupting news reporters, screaming is not helping any...back to the drawing board
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