Protesters Denied Access To Attorneys!, page 1

Protesters Denied Access To Attorneys!

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The ACLU issued a stinging rebuke to the Denver Police Department Wednesday, alleging that the department may have violated laws and constitutional rights of protesters arrested outside the Democratic National Convention.

In the letter, obtained by RAW STORY, the ACLU revealed that the police refused those arrested access to attorneys. Police did not let detainees use phones unless they posted their own bonds, and even failed to provide shoes, in one case marching a protester into court in bare feet and leg shackles, according the ACLU

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This is what a police state is all about folks They want to take away your constitutional rights and thats just for starters.

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reply to post by gnosis111

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At Least 900 Arrested in City as Protesters Clash With Police
By DIANE CARDWELL and MARC SANTORA

Published: September 1, 2004

series of demonstrations rippled across Manhattan last night when protesters tried to converge on the Republican National Convention, as a day of planned civil disobedience erupted into clashes with police officers and led to the arrest of more than 900 people.

The wave of confrontations - which included a brawl with the police at the New York Public Library, marauding crowds cursing at delegates in Midtown and the detention of hundreds of protesters near ground zero - created a day of disorder in a convention week already marked by sustained protests against the Bush administration and the war in Iraq
www.nytimes.com...

2004 Republican National Convention protest activity

2004 Republican National Convention protest activity includes the broad range of marches, rallies, performances, demonstrations, exhibits, and acts of civil disobedience in New York City to protest the 2004 Republican National Convention and the nomination of President George W. Bush for the 2004 U.S. presidential election, as well as a much smaller number of people who marched to support Bush at the convention.

Hundreds of groups organized protests, including United for Peace and Justice, a coalition of more than 800 anti-war and social justice groups, and International ANSWER. Over 1800 individuals were arrested by the authorities, a record for a political convention in the U.S. However 90% of those charges were eventually dropped.
en.wikipedia.org...

reply to post by goose

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It isn't. Democracies allow you to demonstrate against bad decisions, and educate the public as to those decisions and the causes you support.

The US isn't a free country.

(And before the hillbillies get in here, just because you can drive between states in your pickup truck doesn't mean you are free... heck, even the worst fascist governments in history still allowed their citizens to roam around.)

Free countries allow the people to disagree with them, and to let their disagreements be known en-masse.


This group had a permit. Was exercising their right to disagree within the confines of the permitted zone... and the police pushed them out of that zone so they could start arresting them.

Disgusting.

Ah well...

"The best thing about the United States is it's northern border. Because no matter how bad things get, you can always cross it.
The best thing about Canada is it's southern border. Because no matter how bad things get, you've always got something worse to laugh at."
- Anonymous

reply to post by johnsky

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And before the hillbillies get in here, just because you can drive between states in your pickup truck doesn't mean you are free.

Hillbillies are very aware we are loosing our freedom. If that pickup is pulling a livestock trailer you better have your papers in order before you cross that stateline.

The Equine Horse Passport in the Southern States, Think its "Voluntary"?
www.animalagriculture.org...

NAIS takes our land and animals and makes us stakeholders the "politically correct" word for serf.

[size=4] LEGAL DEFINATION OF STAKEHOLDER:
A stakeholder is a person who holds money or other property while its owner is being determined. A stakeholder is typically involved when two persons bet on the outcome of a future event and have a third person act as the stakeholder, holding the money (or "stake[s]") they have both wagered (or "staked") until the event occurs. Courts may act as stakeholders, holding property while litigation between the possible owners resolves the issue of which one is entitled to the property. Other examples of stakeholders include trustees who hold property until beneficiaries come of age, or an escrow agent who holds part of the purchase price of property is being held until some condition is satisfied.
A stakeholder in the context of business refers to everyone with an interest (or "stake") in what the entity does. That includes a business' vendors, employees, and customers, as well as members of a community where its offices or factory may affect the local economy or environment.[/size]
SOURCE: definitions.uslegal.com...

Here's what the ACLU actually said:
www.aclu-co.org...

It appears that in spite of the ACLU's efforts to get people to understand what the laws were and what the regulations were for protesting, some people ignored the advice and counsel. Others (who were legally protesting) got caught in the action when the protestors who were breaking the law got into trouble with the police.

Some apparently innocent bystander were also involved. If there were orders to disperse, they were inaudible to the legal observers.

The time processing 900 people was quite lengthy (which they protested) and the jail wasn't prepared to handle that many people. Tickets that were given out to people included misleading and duplicate information.

...etc.

The ACLU did put up a lot of information about how to legally protest:
www.9news.com...

Right now there are reports of police in the area:
www.associatedcontent.com...

I think we should wait to hear both sides.

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