Alternative 3's Base on Mars Discovered?, page 15
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reply posted on 1-9-2008 @ 12:09 AM by samael93
Originally posted by weedwhacker
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sam...I do not think 'undo' did those things, as you say in your post.

If I am wrong, then I apologize.

just thinking you have 'crossed-over' in your thinking.....something I have done many, many times....possibly even now!

OK!!!! Pizza is here!!! See ya!!


You are half right. Undo did not make the first claim, just defended it. Undo made the second claim. Since Zorgon would not answer the first one and I had a question about the second one, I addressed it all to Undo. Sorry for the confusion. I meant 'how do you' as in how does someone. I should have been more clear.


reply posted on 1-9-2008 @ 12:53 AM by undo
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you said:


Wow! Complete definitive proof of bases on Mars. Do you realize what this means? All the astronauts that died in NASA missions were murdered. If our government has the technology to get back and forth to Mars, as well as buid bases there and all, well then why did astronauts die just going up in the space shuttle? I will tell you why. The government has been lying about what it is capable of and put them in harms way with old tech they new they could do better than. Go to the authorities NOW! The families of those lost astronauts deserve this kind of reparations! The OP is doing a great disservice to this country and those familes by sitting on this proof.


No one is saying that they have complete definitive proof of bases on Mars, but very compelling photographic evidence that seems to indicate bases on Mars. No one is saying they can prove those bases are OURS or NASAs. it's a theory some of us put forward. the rest appears to be further conjecture you drew from their original conjecture. it's entirely possible that we have more than 1 space program and they both can fulfill equally important goals. one could advance our hoarded and top secret tech, the other could use the mundane tech but serve to do experiments and other useful jobs, while sheltering the existence of our top secret, cutting edge technology. nothing is wasted. it's your assumption that the theory must insist it's wasted. not so.

Now, I have lots of images. Maannny images. I don't really want to share them here because I don't want people to get the wrong idea, that i'm supporting anti-NASA stuff. i'm not. i think they are trying very hard to tell us in as few words as possible, without getting called on the mat for it, what is going on but their hands are basically tied. that's my take on it. if you still insist taht i'm being unreasonable or that the ideas presented in the thread are so far out to warrant your attitude, then yes, I will provide the images. but here's the deal:

you can't chicken out.
you have to admit when you have no explanation.
and you must be cordial.


reply posted on 1-9-2008 @ 01:13 AM by samael93
reply to post by undo




I never chicken out.
I am being cordial. (now)
I would be delighted to see things that I could not explain. That is what I am looking for.

If you do not want to post it here, start a new thread and post it there. That way we would not be derailing this thread any further.

...and yes, I feel that the things stated are so completely outragous that they belong with stories of batboy and elvis imprgnating bigfoot.


[edit on 1/9/08 by samael93]



reply posted on 1-9-2008 @ 03:45 AM by undo
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i've changed my mind. i'm female, i reserve the right to do that.
gonna let zorgon show you whatever he finds. i'm just pretty much convinced
we aren't alone in the universe and surprised to see that someone is very busy on mars.
whoever it is, i dunno, but it's interesting.
i know, i know, you were looking forward to it. somehow, based on your prior commentary, i very much doubt that. and i'm not dumb enough to waste your time or mine on circular arguments that surely would ensue. so go ahead, be uncordial, i can take it.. it's preferable to the alternative. (endless argument)


reply posted on 1-9-2008 @ 06:45 PM by ArMaP
reply to post by monkeybus



I know that time may be different on Mars, but I don't think it was "a brief moment", the first photo is from 1998 and the second from 2005.


reply posted on 1-9-2008 @ 07:18 PM by monkeybus
reply to post by ArMaP



well at least a photo anomoly is ruled out, wich is good, and there must be a co-ordinates, for the photos somewhere if it was photographed twice


reply posted on 1-9-2008 @ 07:28 PM by ArMaP
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It was with the coordinates from the first image that I found the second.

75.45°W, 6.81°S

And for those wondering about the size, the round feature is some 74 metres wide.


reply posted on 2-9-2008 @ 08:45 AM by tyranny22
reply to post by ArMaP



I have no idea. I was only "eye-ing it".

It looked to me like the shadows were being cast in the direction that I pointed out, but if you've found evidence to the contrary, I won't dispute such. If, however, the sunlight is being cast in the direction that your said, I think it changes my whole perception of this anomaly.

Can anyone else shed some light on this matter? (LMAO ... can anyone top that pun?)


reply posted on 2-9-2008 @ 01:17 PM by chapter29
reply to post by maxtron



Still looking at the first one, and there may be something to it, but what of that 2nd one?

Is the base in the mountain side or below the cliff face? May seem like a weird question, but you never really commented on what and where...

Thanks for the pic's either way...
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