A Herd of Martian Creatures?, page 3
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reply posted on 29-8-2008 @ 04:27 AM by zorgon
reply to post by the00110001

Hey thanks for that BOTH images The bugs are awesome I will put that with the "herd" on the page

Here is a sunset on Mars from Phoenix to end the night




reply posted on 29-8-2008 @ 07:21 AM by reject
reply to post by zorgon
they are geologic formations. As you can see from these photos taken at our home planet.
But I do think there may be some forms of spores, molds, & fungus on mars.


reply posted on 29-8-2008 @ 07:55 AM by flyindevil
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reply posted on 29-8-2008 @ 08:19 AM by The_Modulus
Those are most likely dunes. Barchan dunes to be precise.

That 'herd' featuring in the OP marching in a straight line definately looks like some crazy things are going on there, but I think taking the rest of the picture into account these are quite clearly sand dunes, this part of the image makes this particularly clear:



I think the reason why these dunes contrast so starkly is due to the underlying surface on which they have formed. If we look closer at the patches of land between the dunes like this (minor contrast enhancement):



it appears fairly smooth with a consistent cracked-paint texture. At first I thought this surface may be an ice sheet, but as the image appears to have been taken near the equator this is unlikely. Furthermore the texture of the surface very much resembles that of deserts on Earth:



Flat terrains such as these provide ideal habitats for the growth of barchan dunes. The formation of which often begin due to isolated objects being stranded in the middle of these flat surfaces, these objects include things such as rocks, small shrubs or slight elevations and depressions on the surface. This image illustrates some fledgling dunes:



Ok, I've had a go at making some illustrations demonstrating this principle
As you can see in the first image an object on a plane across which sand is being blown will create an obstruction into which dust will become caught, the object also creates a small shelter from the wind immediately behind it at which point dust is deposited and accumulated:





Once these small dunes have developed the continue to grow and become sculpted by the wind depending the manner in which it blows. The formation of these particular Barchan dunes is illustrated as such:



Im pretty sure this makes for a strong case that they are indeed dunes, the images from mars look remarkably similar to the dunes illustrated above:



And if you're still convinced that these are too alien to be dunes; this is taken in an area called the Empty Quarter somewhere in Arabia:



[edit on 29-8-2008 by The_Modulus]


reply posted on 29-8-2008 @ 08:39 AM by mikesingh
reply to post by zorgon



Ahh...So that's where they're exporting them goats!! No wonder the cost of mutton chops has gone thru the darned roof!!

But seriously, I've seen those intriguing images before, but never saw any explanation - except the usual, "Hey! They're just rocks!"

P.S. I just read the post above mine by The_Modulus (How did it get there? Wasn't there when I was replying!! ) Pretty interesting! That's the first time I've seen such dunes in the Arabian desert! Yep! There's an uncanny similarity.

Cheers!


reply posted on 29-8-2008 @ 09:14 AM by Psychopump
reply to post by The_Modulus



A truly excellent post!
I commend your effort and am convinced by your arguments and diagrams.

Star for you!


reply posted on 29-8-2008 @ 10:10 AM by MrVertigo
As The_Modulus so eloquently pointed out they are definitely dunes.
Similar phenomena:



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The interesting part is obviously the dark stuff. Now as I understand it it's all flowing downwards, despite the fact that it appears to be "flailing" in the air, for lack of a better term.
This is how NASA explains the phenomena:


Explanation: What are these strange shapes on Mars? Defrosting sand dunes. As spring now dawns on the Northern Hemisphere of Mars, dunes of sand near the pole, as pictured above, are beginning to thaw. The carbon dioxide and water ice actually sublime in the thin atmosphere directly to gas. Thinner regions of ice typically defrost first revealing sand whose darkness soaks in sunlight and accelerates the thaw. The process might even involve sandy jets exploding through the thinning ice. By summer, spots will expand to encompass the entire dunes. The Martian North Pole is ringed by many similar fields of barchan sand dunes, whose strange, smooth arcs are shaped by persistent Martian winds.


Source

I have read this explanation about five times and I still have trouble wrapping my head around it. But basically we seem to be dealing with a case of "Thermal Expansion" on Mars...


reply posted on 29-8-2008 @ 10:49 AM by silo13
reply to post by CaptGizmo



OH MY GAWD!!!
Would you please WARN US before you post a pic like that!
Holy ickysjeet! I'm going to have to go check my whole house now for ticks.
That is just so gross...

Back on topic - Those pics SOOOO incredible beautiful - whatever they are!
I like the herd theory...


Thanks for the pic!



[edit on 29-8-2008 by silo13]


reply posted on 29-8-2008 @ 11:44 AM by Atlantican
reply to post by zorgon



It looks like a dermatological close up photo of a small staph infection! LOL!

My first impression is nitrogen nodules like found on the roots of some plants. Plants tend to involve co2 in their lives as we do oxygen. Who knows in a super co2 rich environment maybe we are talking major plant life but like comparing under sea plantlife to dry land plantlife.

Life on Mars could even be silicate based verses carbon, allowing for exotic rock-like life forms. It is truly a planet of intrigue.

Nice find!
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