Did Maury Povich really discover what's under the Sphinx?, page 2

reply to post by cindymars

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Zahi

You might want to read his latest interview from July 28, 2008

reply to post by Hanslune

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Harte, can you not just keep saying "it doesn't exist" or "it's not true", you don't know this, just as much as I don't know it exists, how hard is it to express beliefs rather than 'facts'.

There is alot of circumstantial evidence that says that there is something down there, whether Cayce was a crook or not, you don't know this, it is an assumption on your part.

Maury Povich, lol, didn't see that coming, I've heard about this many times, first time I've heard maury was involved though.

Interesting website, some interesting information.
www.akasha.de...

I assumed it was a symbolic chamber aswell, since I doubted they were ever going to admit that Osiris could have been humanoid, or evenly remotely more than a religious concept/figure. Although it did go a bit a rye at the beginning, it shows images of the dig beneath the sphinx further down.

(Is this the same as the shaft and the causeway?)

The author of that website implies at the end that they know where the body is, may have read it wrong, but he claims that after the body was removed from the sarcophagus, it was moved and that they know where it was moved to, from the book of the dead, which made me think it may not be a 'symbolic' tomb afterall.

EMM

Originally posted by MockedUnicorn
A few years ago, I saw a show on FOX about unearthing egyptian mysteries or something. The show followed Maury Povich as he helped to find a new mummy and towards the end of the show, they travelled under the sphinx to a secret chamber, where there was a big pool of water or something. I dont remember all the details and I cant find much info online.

Has anyone else seen this or have any information about it?

I hear people talk about the Sphinx a lot and no one seems to mention the Discovery by Povich and his team.

There's transcripts of the show but they're probably not accessible to you unless you have a university account. I found a reaonable review of it here:
www.guardians.net...

The mummies were not under the sphynx' paw, but rather in a pit between the sphynx and the pyramid, close to where one of the temples would have been. The formal tombs suggest that Kai was an important priest of the cult of Khufu and responsible for maintaining the worship of the dead pharaoh as well as for teaching the children of the pharaohs, so he was given an important location in the Gizamid graveyard:
articles.latimes.com...

National Geographic did articles on it in 2002:
news.nationalgeographic.com...

It's also in the book, "Hidden treasures of the Cairo museum" (check google books)

Google scholar search shows about 70 new articles (since 2002) on the subject.

For the record, Hawass has
* mostly stopped the looting (tourist) and destruction (tourist) and graffiti making (tourist and other) at Giza.
* allowed legitimate archaeolgical digs there not headed by himself (SMU here in Texas has done some.)
* permitted archaeologists to do a number of ground penetrating radar studies on the area, including under the Sphynx.

From this source: www.unmuseum.org...

There have been rumors of passageways and secret chambers surrounding the Sphinx and during recent restoration work several tunnels have been re-discovered. One, near the rear of the statue extends down into it for about nine yards. Another, behind the head, is a short dead-end shaft. The third, located mid-way between the tail and the paws, was apparently opened during restoration work in the 1920's, then resealed. It is unknown whether these tunnels were constructed by the original Egyptian designers, or were cut into the statue at a later date. Many scientists speculate they are the result of ancient treasure hunting efforts.

Several attempts have been made to use non-invasive exploration techniques to ascertain if there are other hidden chambers or tunnels about the Sphinx. These include electromagnetic sounding, seismic refraction, seismic reflection, refraction tomography, electrical resistivity and acoustical survey tests.

Studies made by Florida State University, Waseda University (Japan), and Boston University, have found "anomalies" around the Sphinx. These could be interpreted as chambers or passageways, but they could also be such natural features as faults or changes in the density of the rock. Egyptian archaeologists, charged with preserving the statue, are concerned about the danger of digging or drilling into the natural rock near the Sphinx to find out if cavities really exist.

That's pretty understandable... preserve the crumbling Sphynx or allow people to go drilling holes and digging all around it without clear evidence of something being there.

Many people seem to think the thing is as rock solid as the mountains... but it isn't. They are constantly having to repair and restore it.

Just to add to Byrd's comments

drilling at the Sphinx

The resistivity work done in 1976 around the Sphinx was very brief and wide electrode spacings were used. The 1978 resistivity work was much more thorough and our team used (as I recall) one-foot electrode spacings. Patti Burns and John Tanzi of the SRI team did the 1978 resistivity work, however none of us has been able to locate our logs and print outs. We were not funded for additional data analysis and the results of the resistivity work done on-site were relativity uninteresting. The few minor resistivity anomalies the team mapped were compared with high-frequency seismic soundings over the same area (the Sphinx platform and the Sphinx Temple floors). On the basis of these anomalies decisions were made in the field about where to drill holes in the bedrock.

With permission from the Giza Inspectorate we drilled a total of 5 four-inch drill holes on each the significant resistivity/seismic anomalies. Three holes were in the temple area below the sphinx and two were in the platform (bedrock floor) around the sphinx itself. We originally had hoped to drill at least six more holes around the Sphinx, but this was not not done because of the limited time and budget as well as because of the concerns of the A.O. that we might in some way damage the Sphinx.

Another quote from the same source by Lambert Dolphin

Our resistivity work and drilling around the Sphinx in 1978 was in fact sponsored by the A. R. E. in Mark Lehner's early days, however that did not prevent us from advising them that we did not find the legendary Edgar Cayce Hall of Records under the right paw. I share your views that Mark has done a lot of good and praiseworthy research. I had several deep conversations with Hugh Lynn Cayce before he died about his father Edgar Cayce's unconventional Middle Eastern chronology. Hugh Lynn was quite candid with me about his own suspicions that his father may have been way off base in this one area of his psychic "readings."

[edit on 31/8/08 by Hanslune]

[edit on 31/8/08 by Hanslune]

Originally posted by Byrd
Sadly, I think many people would prefer destruction of the old Sphynx so that they could try to prove Cayce

I agree there, and despite our different beliefs on where the sphinx/pyramids came from, I think we can both agree, they are an astounding piece of history and should be treasured.

The "hall of records" is unlikely.

I'm glad you said unlikely.

Hanslune, you may consider this differently, but would you not consider the various groups to claim discovery of supposed tunnels and chambers, through various methods to be circumstantial? John Anthony West claimed to discover tunnels and chambers beneath the sphinx, one leading off toward the pyramids. Boris Said's discovery, discoveries of underground tunnels and chambers, subsequently leading to the discovery of the Tomb of Osiris. To me, this says there is something there, what it is I'm not sure, but the fact they have been denying it publicly for about a decade makes me suspicious. Then we have all the legends built up around them, could they be based on truth, thats my view anyway.

EMM

www.towers-online.co.uk...

[edit on 31-8-2008 by ElectroMagnetic Multivers]

The Sphinx is made of limestone and is a part of the giza plateau. Limestone by its nature has fissures and cracks in it. There has been some external stones added to it but the majority of the structure is solid limestone. It rests on solid limestone. If there are "rooms" under the Sphinx they were not accessed from the location of the Spnix. There have been a number of remote sensing of the plateau. The one from 2003 is noted below.

Yes it would be a bad idea to built too many tunnels and empty spaces under the Spninx.

glendash.com...

Figure 8: Surveys near the Sphinx. We detected four distinct sets of anomalies. Anomaly 1 may be a wall which served as an extension of the "Sphinx Ditch" which bounds the Great Sphinx on the north. Anomaly 2 may be the remnant of a stage built in 1969 and removed in 1996. Anomaly 3 is of an unknown nature, perhaps a void beneath the surface. Anomaly 4 is caused by the modern road which runs through the area. The dotted lines show where Tremaine's vehicle ran in performing the survey.

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