Georgia conflict may have been provoked to aid U.S. presidential candidate - Putin

The conflict between Russia/South Osettia/Abkhazia and Georgia has been going on since before the current 2 term president was even in office.

I have never heard of this and perhaps it is Russia's problem.

That is not the way the world works.

They way the world works is you blame any problem as being deliberately planned by the evil Americans in order to mask what is really going on. There are many people who would rather believe that the evil Americans are behind every evil act rather than to take the time and do some research.

So you just automatically believe anything Putin says? That's pretty lame.



Really? How about asking the Russians how things went for them in Afghanistan? Not too well, did they?




You forgot the bit about not pulling back to their own borders after the cease fire was signed. Proof the Russians will go back on their word.




Sorry to hear that. Forget about the Russian-Finnish war, I guess, huh?

I think Putin is an ATS lurker,sorry for small post
Imo this claim has no legs


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Bush hasn't been in control for some time..it's Cheney and the neo-clowns..

This is all script. If "someone in the United States" is responsible for this crisis, Putin is just reading from prepared script like everyone else. Putin is in on it. There are 300 million people over here, which one, is what I want to know. But he won't say because thats not his lines. What a tool Putin just proved himself to be with the "someone in the United States" description. Which candidate was supposed to benefit from it? He won't say because he is worthless.

If the Russians want to pretend to somehow be less manipulative than the other countries in this world, Putin would have identified the candidate this crisis was supposed to help, outlined in detail the full scope of this plot and directly accused the responsible parties. Otherwise STFU!!

All will be judged and your job title and description is not going to considered in the sentencing phase.

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I've always liked Putin. I mean... he's the #.

I think the Americans have a lot of cheek to question Russia on the situation in Georgia. Yes they are invading a rebelious region of another nation but these rebels wish to align to Russia. They border Russia so I personally see this as fair game, and fair game to Russia to support them.

If Russia had not intervened Georgia would have become a nation of two people(much like the Kosovo debacle) whilst being ruled by one government working only for the people of Georgia. Central Georgians would be the ones to prosper rather than South Ossetia creating a far poorer quality of life for the people of South Ossetia.


As a close I would like to remind you that the U.S. government has invaded two nations both of which are in the Middle East far from the boreder of America. These invasions were under a false pretence (to attack Al Qaeda) and for ulterior motives (Oil pipes in Afghanistan and crude oil in Iraq.)

The U.S. government has had far less outcry for something far more heinous in my opinion than the Russians, and yes I think in the long term the invasion for Iraq may benefit Iraqis but I doubt the invasion of Afghanistan will change much for the good.

The Russians haven't yet been excepted by the west even after conforming to there expectations, and the Russians are given far less credit than they deserve. They acted as good counterbalance to the power of the U.S. and protected the world from the use of casual nuclear weapons across the globe. The missile shield (although relatively pathetic as it stands) would upset that balance and that is something I think would push the world into a new global conflict. It is not the protection of people from political isolation within there own nation that will do this.

I love the way people keep comparing PAST Russian leaders to CURRENT American ones..
What happened under others is not the issue here ..

I think both sides are responsible. But I see no reason that Putin is held fully accountable. These are small issues that are turning into great big ones, influenced from the media. It's all about the ratings, it's all about wealth and greed. What happened to society? I'm moving out of here.

This is BS... Internet sencoring has began !!!!!!

Youtube Video, Google Videos have STOPPED viewing the videos outside US. I'm Canadian and I notices as of last couple of weeks links such as above, which have Anti-American (the truth that is) messages are being blocked! Never seen this kinda crap before, what happen to freedom of speech!

Get your country back from these true terrorists before it's too late or we'll ALL loose !!!!!!!!!!!!

Putin accuses US of orchestrating Georgian war

The youtube search results....

The first has ludicrous in it so we know where that's coming from,
Illuminati hawks mind control.

They control the frequency of life.. what's the frequency Kenneth.

Big oil backed government and the suppression Tesla electrical energy
devices other than from Niagara Falls are Illuminati Big Time enterprises.

Putin is clever indeed, might be the reason that he is making these statements is to probe the two candidates parties for responses?
Has McCain's party made any responses?
Has Obama's party made any clarifications?
If both chose to ignore this matter, then what message they are trying to show to us or to Putin?
That whoever wins from both parties will he adopt the same strategy as it holds today by G.W. Bush after the elections?

What will Obama do?
What will McCain do?
Are their external politics identical concerning the crisis in Georgia?
What about the war in Iraq?
What about a pending invasion in Iran?

[edit on 30-8-2008 by spacebot]

[edit on 30-8-2008 by spacebot]

I wonder since Georgia has all that money for even paying lobbyists and I suppose such services don't come cheap, and for building up a huge military since they are after all such a small and poor country, why aren't they doing something about unemployment in their country? I understand many ethnic Georgians do not seek employment in their own country due to extremely low wages, they are spread throughout Balkan countries and main Europe for seeking a decent paycheck.
Also anyone would expect the Saakashvili party to immediately fall from favor in Georgia due to the latest major unsuccessful handling of the situation in south Osetia, and the two neighboring runaway states in the borders of Georgia, which they will never going to win them back as it seems, thanks to the Saakashvili government, yet I do not hear anything about Saakashvili falling from power.
What is keeping Saakashvili still in power?

[edit on 30-8-2008 by spacebot]