Georgia conflict may have been provoked to aid U.S. presidential candidate - Putin, page 1
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Topic started on 28-8-2008 @ 02:17 PM by JanusFIN

Georgia conflict may have been provoked to aid U.S. presidential candidate - Putin


en.rian.ru
MOSCOW, August 28 (RIA Novosti) - Russian Prime Minister Vladimir Putin prompted an angry reaction from Washington on Thursday after suggesting the Georgia conflict may have been provoked to give an advantage to "one of" the U.S. presidential candidates.

"If my guess is right, then it raises the suspicion that someone in the US deliberately created this conflict in order to worsen the situation and create an advantage... for one of the candidates for the post of president of the United States," Putin said on CNN.
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reply posted on 28-8-2008 @ 02:39 PM by JanusFIN
There is so many reasons why that criminal and destructive government of USA has to stop by someone. Almost whole other world is against Anglo-Americans, and also I do shame my country, witch is condemning Russia by destructive EU policy.

Do not anybody forget this:


Putin stressed that Russia did not attack and cannot be portrayed as an aggressor. “We didn’t attack anyone, we were attacked and therefore we need guarantees that we won’t be attacked again, and that our citizens won't be killed. They are trying to present us as aggressors”.

The Prime Minister has given a detailed chronology of the events between August 7 and 10.

“On 7 August, at 14:42, the Georgian peacekeepers left the headquarters of the peacekeeping forces under the pretext that they'd received orders from their commanders to leave their posts, and they never returned. One hour later, heavy artillery shelling began.

At 22:35 a massive bombardment of Tsklhinval started.

At 22:50 the transfer of Georgian ground troops started to the combat area. At the same time Georgian field hospitals were set up.

And at 23:30 the Brigadeer General commanding the Georgian peacekeeping forces announced that Georgia has declared a war against South Ossetia. They announced this publicly, looking straight into the TV cameras. At that point we tried to contact the Georgian leadership, but everyone refused to talk to us.

At 12:45 AM on the 8th of August the Georgian commander repeated his statement. So who attacked whom?”

The former Russian president reiterated that the country has ‘no intention of attacking anyone, or of fighting a war with anyone’.


www.russiatoday.com...

I really support Medvedev-Putin, two headed Russian eagles against US/EU hawks!



reply posted on 28-8-2008 @ 03:05 PM by JanusFIN
reply to post by LiquidMirage



Who wants to believe who? I dont believe to US...


SCO supports Russia’s role in South Ossetia

Members of the Shanghai Cooperation Organisation have signed a declaration in support of Russia's peacekeeping mission in South Ossetia. The member states expressed support for Russia's peacekeeping efforts, but pointed out any solution must be based on the principle of territorial integrity.


www.russiatoday.com...


reply posted on 28-8-2008 @ 03:12 PM by Leo Strauss
Randy Scheunemann, the senior foreign policy advisor for John McCain, worked for four years as a paid lobbyist for the Georgian government. I posted this in the other Georgia thread. I meant to post here.

Link to Article



Before you dismiss that possibility, consider the role of one Randy Scheunemann, for four years a paid lobbyist for the Georgian government who ended his official lobbying connection only in March, months after he became Republican presidential candidate John McCain’s senior foreign policy adviser.

In 2005, while registered as a paid lobbyist for Georgia, Scheunemann worked with McCain to draft a congressional resolution pushing for Georgia’s membership in NATO. A year later, while still on the Georgian payroll, Scheunemann accompanied McCain on a trip to that country, where they met with Saakashvili and supported his bellicose views toward Russia’s Vladimir Putin.

Scheunemann is at the center of the neoconservative cabal that has come to dominate the Republican candidate’s foreign policy stance in a replay of the run-up to the war against Iraq. These folks are always looking for a foreign enemy on which to base a new Cold War, and with the collapse of Saddam Hussein’s regime, it was Putin’s Russia that came increasingly to fit the bill.



reply posted on 28-8-2008 @ 03:25 PM by jerico65
reply to post by JanusFIN



So, simply because Putin said the US was behind it, it MUST be true. And because the US said we weren't, it MUST be a lie?

I think the Russians are just trying to take the heat off them for what they did. Everyone said that when the US invaded Iraq, it was overkill. That's what the Russians did in Georgia, too.


reply posted on 28-8-2008 @ 03:56 PM by JanusFIN
reply to post by jerico65


Who believe anything what comes from White House anymore?

Some WMD:s maybe, explosions in towers at 911, in Pentagon... Osama... or Bush votes in Florida? Oh, I forget The War On Drugs... Just crazy!

Putin have not been acused from straight lies, so he is more trusted.

And after all Russia succeed, where US fall to endless quaqmires...

1. They didnt push forward and invade a country that they cant win, but they withdraw, after enemy was beaten down in front of them.
2. They didnt rush to capital, even when the road was clear, because they didnt have a plan to keep it.
3. There is time for policy, and time for war, not time for endless war by policy.
4. Russia we will love, US we will hate.



reply posted on 28-8-2008 @ 04:13 PM by SectionEight
Originally posted by JanusFIN
reply to post by jerico65


Who believe anything what comes from White House anymore?

Some WMD:s maybe, explosions in towers at 911, in Pentagon... Osama... or Bush votes in Florida? Oh, I forget The War On Drugs... Just crazy!

Putin have not been acused from straight lies, so he is more trusted.

And after all Russia succeed, where US fall to endless quaqmires...

1. They didnt push forward and invade a country that they cant win, but they withdraw, after enemy was beaten down in front of them.
2. They didnt rush to capital, even when the road was clear, because they didnt have a plan to keep it.
3. There is time for policy, and time for war, not time for endless war by policy.
4. Russia we will love, US we will hate.


Russia smashes its fist down, causes destruction and leaves. The US always rebuilds what it tears down and shows compassion to the vanquished along with showering tons of money at them to get them back on their feet.
Just look at Japan, rebuilt.
Afghanistan, rebuilt.
Iraq rebuilt.
They were not left to suffer in poverty.

Now look at the former iron curtain countries. They were exactly as underdeveloped in 1991 as they were in 1945. Why do you think they are siding with the West en mass instead of Russia?
Too bad the old power Europeans are too snobbish and stuck on themselves to want to include them in on the prosperity the US provided for them after they were torn down by war too.
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