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New Internet Protocol 6000x faster than DSL

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posted on Mar, 18 2004 @ 03:01 AM
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"Researchers in North Carolina have developed a data transfer protocol for the Internet that makes today's high-speed Digital Subscriber Line (DSL) connections seem lethargic. The protocol is named BIC-TCP, which stands for Binary Increase Congestion Transmission Control Protocol. In a recent comparative study run by the Stanford Linear Accelerator Center (SLAC), BIC consistently topped the rankings in a set of experiments that determined its stability, scalability and fairness in comparison with other protocols. The study tested six other protocols developed by researchers from schools around the world, including the California Institute of Technology and the University College of London. BIC can reportedly achieve speeds roughly 6,000 times that of DSL and 150,000 times that of current modems"

I can't wait for music downloads in 1 sec and movie downloads in just a few seconds. Aside from these advantages what do you see as the biggest benefit from ever increasing speeds?

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posted on Mar, 18 2004 @ 03:06 AM
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People won't have to wait so long to download porn.

Your search will be completed in .0000000000000001 seconds instead of.019 seconds.

The household PC will become the all-in-one entertainment center.

All information incoming and outgoing of your home will be controlled with one line.

The possibilities are endless...



posted on Mar, 18 2004 @ 03:24 AM
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I wish it said when it is coming out and how much it will cost.



posted on Mar, 18 2004 @ 03:34 AM
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It shouldn't cost anything because it is a protocol. Currently we use an ancient protocol called TCP-IP: Transmission Control Protocol-Internet Protocol.

What is a protocol? A standard procedure for regulating data transmission between computers.

Because of our increase in technology from the 1970s you could say that TCP-IP has been bogging us down in terms of speed - it was developed for the systems that were used in the 1970s.

So, it would seem that BIC-TCP would be the natural evolution of TCP-IP. We have faster equipment now and their bandwidth isn't being used efficiently because of TCP-IP. Hopefully BIC-TCP will become the new standard in a short amount of time.

This could just be another one of those things that you won't actually see implemented until decades later and by that time it will have been succeeded by better technologies. Even if it is implemented, you probably will only see it used on government networks, college networks, etc... Really, it won't be very useful to the general public, unless they plan to make it a new standard that every type of computer and networking hardware must adhere to.

I remember reading about this new protocol a few months ago (can't remember where). Thanks for finding that article.
I had completely forgot about it.


[Edited on 3-18-2004 by EmbryonicEssence]



posted on Mar, 18 2004 @ 04:34 AM
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Would be a gamers dream. ZERO lag, now that would be sweet.

and just how much faster is 6000x anyway?

[Edited on 18-3-2004 by Britman]



posted on Mar, 18 2004 @ 05:45 AM
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EmbryonicEssence has pointed out a very important fact that this article seems to misrepresent or skew the actual facts for some reason.

Mainly that TCP/IP and this new BIC-TCP are PROTOCOLS where as DSL, Modems and Cable Connections are the Medium on which the communication is taking place. Think of the Protocol as being the Language which is being used to communicate and the Medium as the Voice Box and the air which the noise is traveling on.

I don't exactly understand why they compare this new protocol speed to that of DSL, since it is like comparing a new improved Gasoline to a Ferrari, it makes no sense. BIC-TCP will use a DSL line or modem just like TCP-IP, IPX, or any other protocol would. The comparison would be between TCP/IP and BIC-TCP and according to this article it is only about the Data Trasfer Rate at that. There is much more included within networking than just the Data Rate alone, which is most obvious in the fact that it uses TCP in the new protocol name as well. TCP is apparently still going to be used as the 'Transmission Control Protocol' like always.

Another strange thing was when they stated:
"TCP was originally designed in the 1980s when Internet speeds were much slower and bandwidths much smaller,"
TCP/IP was orginally designed as the controlling function of ARPANET in the 60's & 70's by the DoD as a means of Emergency Communication. It was much more simplified than it is now of course, but the core of it was the same and it had nothing to do with the Internet that we know of today.

I'm not saying that this article is lying in what it's saying exactly, but it's not exactly honest in what it's saying either. More like it's trying to sound more amazing than it really is and/or getting some of it's terminology and facts mixed up or wrong. Other than that, an interesting post though...



posted on Mar, 18 2004 @ 05:56 AM
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From the replies to this post, it is clear that more information about the original paper cited in the article is needed.

Here is a link to the original paper from researchers at NC State. LINK

It's pretty technical, enjoy

I think they used the comparison between DSL and BIC because most readers would not understand the difference and a reference point was needed that the lay person could understand. Besides it makes a nice headline.

[Edited on 18-3-2004 by Soldier]



posted on Mar, 18 2004 @ 06:02 AM
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Originally posted by Britman
and just how much faster is 6000x anyway?


I dont know but im guessing way faster than what we have now!



posted on Mar, 18 2004 @ 06:40 AM
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I hope its cheaper than DSL. we got a notice in the mail yesterday that said DSL was going up 2 dollars a mth.
I need to find a way to make some money on the internet so I'm not throwing all my money down the DSL line for nothing.


[Edited on 18-3-2004 by TgSoe]



posted on Mar, 18 2004 @ 06:59 AM
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Originally posted by TgSoe
I hope its cheaper than DSL. we got a notice in the mail yesterday that said DSL was going up 2 dollars a mth.
I need to find a way to make some money on the internet so I'm not throwing all my money down the DSL line for nothing.


[Edited on 18-3-2004 by TgSoe]


Knowing the way things work when they start implementing the new technology prices tend to go up since it's a brand new "product". Usually the ignorance in most end-users is exploited this way because most still think in the way new=expensive even though it might actually be cheaper than previous technology.

I agree also with you on DSL prices I don't know how much you pay in your area but here in P.R. we get screwed cause there is only one company which holds a monopoly over the entire infrastructure so the price is high. I pay around $60/month alone for a crummy 512kps/128kps line when i know they have support for up to 5~6Mbits yet they don't offer any such services. Well not unless you work for the company in which you get free service fully uncapped.



posted on Mar, 18 2004 @ 07:04 AM
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Originally posted by Xephyre
I agree also with you on DSL prices I don't know how much you pay in your area but here in P.R. we get screwed cause there is only one company which holds a monopoly over the entire infrastructure so the price is high. I pay around $60/month alone for a crummy 512kps/128kps line when i know they have support for up to 5~6Mbits yet they don't offer any such services. Well not unless you work for the company in which you get free service fully uncapped.


I can vouch for that. I pay $40 for 512/128k Cable!!

The Bastards.



posted on Mar, 18 2004 @ 07:09 AM
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Originally posted by Ocelot

Originally posted by Xephyre
I agree also with you on DSL prices I don't know how much you pay in your area but here in P.R. we get screwed cause there is only one company which holds a monopoly over the entire infrastructure so the price is high. I pay around $60/month alone for a crummy 512kps/128kps line when i know they have support for up to 5~6Mbits yet they don't offer any such services. Well not unless you work for the company in which you get free service fully uncapped.


I can vouch for that. I pay $40 for 512/128k Cable!!

The Bastards.


And i bet you usually have to call there tech support to scream at them everytime there service kicks the bucket. At least when i was with them it was around 10~15 times a week sometimes for 4~6 hours. The best part was to be greeted by an ignorant "techie" who couldn't comprehend the words "packet loss" and the only solution they nw was unplug replug your modem or "Your PC is the problem..."


Anyway before I get enraged of those bad experiences I think I'll search more information on this new protocol.

[Edited on 18/3/2004 by Xephyre]

[Edited on 18/3/2004 by Xephyre]



posted on Mar, 18 2004 @ 07:11 AM
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I always though broadband prices in the US where cheap but I guess I'm wrong. You can get 512k connection in the UK for about $30. I pay about $55 for a 1meg connection.



posted on Mar, 18 2004 @ 07:13 AM
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Originally posted by Xephyre
And i bet you usually have to call there tech support to scream at them everytime there service kicks the bucket. At least when i was with them it was around 10~15 times a week sometimes for 4~6 hours. The best part was to be greeted by an ignorant "techie" who couldn't comprehend the words "packet loss" and the only solution they nw was unplug replug your modem or "Your PC is the problem..."


Lately the service has been pretty steady but at the begining it was a nightmare. They always had these dumbass service reps who didn't know how to turn a computer much less help me out with my problem.


[Edited on 18-3-2004 by Ocelot]



posted on Mar, 18 2004 @ 07:20 AM
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Originally posted by Britman
I always though broadband prices in the US where cheap but I guess I'm wrong. You can get 512k connection in the UK for about $30. I pay about $55 for a 1meg connection.


I really envy that...



posted on Mar, 18 2004 @ 07:28 AM
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I found this on the same site as the BIC - TCP story:
FAST TCP

So when are they coming
, as a 56Ker, I need all the speed I can get.



posted on Mar, 18 2004 @ 07:33 AM
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My guess is that we won't see it available to the public for 2-3 years and it will be very expensive ( at first ).



posted on Mar, 19 2004 @ 12:38 AM
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^Probably right... although it is disheartening to think that such speed will only be in the hands of private networks. I have 1.5 megabyte cable access and at times I still wish I had a faster connection(call me greedy if you want), but the new protocol would allow my current connection to handle anything. I am crossing my fingers that one of the next Windows XP updates will include this.



posted on Mar, 19 2004 @ 02:05 AM
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Originally posted by Britman
and just how much faster is 6000x anyway?


Well, it would be 6000x, then wouldn't it?

"Yeh, but this one goes to eleven..." -Nigel

Don't even look at it...
DeltaChaos


jra

posted on Mar, 19 2004 @ 07:14 PM
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This protocol won't make our modems faster. Unless you have an extremely fast connection. Something where you can pull 6Gbps through it. Otherwise it wouldn't do much for you.

Plus saying "protocol faster than DSL" is like saying "This gasoline is faster than a car"



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