Hillary supporters, stop your whining and get over yourselves already. , page

reply to post by vor78

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That's your opinion and you're welcome to it.
We keep picking presidents for their personality and "down to earth" crap and look where it's gotten us.
We've become a high school democracy picking for class president.
Issues, issues, issues, nothing else matters.
How can anyone be so childish and irresponsible as to vote out of spite or gender or anything that's got nothing to do with anything?

[edit on 8/27/2008 by schrodingers dog]

reply to post by schrodingers dog

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I think that's the problem here; it IS an ideological divide. Hillary's support base tends to come from two distinctly more conservative groups than Obama's: 40+ year olds and rural/semi-rural voters. I think those people who are still holding out, while Dems, have found themselves in a position where they're almost as far from Obama ideologically as they are from McCain.

In other words, most of them are probably Reagan Democrats, representing the more conservative wing of the Democratic party. They expect Hillary to govern like Bill did, as a moderate, just as they themselves are.

So when these people are basically splitting the difference ideologically between McCain and Obama, ideology is no longer the deciding factor. It does indeed come down to 'petty' differences that they may have, or at least, it may appear that way outwardly. But if you dig under the surface, I think there's a lot more to their dissent than just bad blood. Whether they're right or wrong, I think there's a real, substantive difference in the way they viewed Hillary's policies and the way they viewed Obama's.

This is why I think Obama is going to have to greatly humble himself at this point if he wants their vote. Its also why all the speeches in the world from Hillary haven't solved this. The only person who can repair this rift between Barack Obama and Hillary's supporters is Barack Obama, and given how long this feud has been ongoing, I think he'll very much have his work cut out for him.

reply to post by Jemison

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So it is your opinion that if one, not you but one, wants universal healthcare, is pro-choice, and supports many other issues in the democratic agenda, should vote McCain because their feelings are hurt?
Because this is what this thread is addressing.
Obviously if you do not support those issues you were never going to vote for him.

reply to post by LateApexer313

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I love the bumper sticker


i bought a hillary bumper sticker too - from this guy

Hillary Bumper Sticker


im still waiting on someone to egg my car as a consequence

reply to post by southern_Guardian

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Darn tooting!
And he's going to clear her debts.
And he gave her back her delegates anyway.
And don't get me started on Billy.

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