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reply posted on 27-8-2008 @ 10:45 PM by Keyhole
Originally posted by SectionEight
1)Do you think ABC news is gonna stop kissing Barrack Obama's posterior long enough to take notice of this?

2)If they do they will fire the reporter for potentially embarassing their messiah at his asscention to the throne.


1) Apparently they DID take notice of this! This is from the ABC News website!

ABC Reporter Arrested in Denver Taking Pictures of Senators, Big Donors

A cigar-smoking Denver police sergeant, accompanied by a team of five other officers, first put his hands on Eslocker's neck, then twisted the producer's arm behind him to put on handcuffs.

A police official later told lawyers for ABC News that Eslocker is being charged with trespass, interference, and failure to follow a lawful order. He also said the arrest followed a signed complaint from the Brown Palace Hotel.



2) This is a case of police brutality, it was between a cop and a reporter!

This shouldn't in any way "embarrass" Obama! The Denver Police Department should be embarrassed, but not Obama.


reply posted on 27-8-2008 @ 11:18 PM by Blaine91555
reply to post by loam


Is it increasing or is it because everyone carries cell phones and camcorders now? I don't really know but I suspect as much.

As I said, what is on these videos is wrong and those cops should pay a dear price. I have no argument with that. What I'm about is this misrepresentation of all cops being bad and America being like what is in those video's. That is just not true.

If you consider the number of towns, police forces and the population, even though it seems like lots of cases; they are rare.

I also imagine what it would be like without police? Think about it. Also think honestly about the people you know who often have encounters with the police. They deserve it don't they.

When I was young, I was not a good person. I'm not proud of it. I was never violent though, but you can't be involved with hard drugs and not be around people who are. They all talked like some of the posts I see here that try and paint a false picture of what it is really like.

The truth is that most people go their entire lives without ever being in a fight, being arrested or even having to look over their shoulder for cops. In my bad old days I was always paranoid of cops and thought they were the ones doing wrong when in fact, they were just trying to protect the innocent people. Now, I'm not talking about these thugs we see in these films.

When President Reagan was shot, I was in a room full of radical, very bad people. One of them came running in from their car and turned the TV on and said someone shot Reagan. They all stood up and cheered! That was when I started to realize what kind of people I was associating with. Even so it took more years before I came to my senses.



reply posted on 27-8-2008 @ 11:20 PM by Blaine91555
reply to post by Cowgirlstraitup7


I think most people are pretty reasonable about these things. They know that if one officer does something wrong it does not mean most or all of them are bad.


reply posted on 27-8-2008 @ 11:49 PM by loam
Originally posted by Blaine91555
reply to post by loam


Is it increasing or is it because everyone carries cell phones and camcorders now? I don't really know but I suspect as much.


So how would our ignorance of its scale connect to the issue of how much of it is acceptable?

Originally posted by Blaine91555
What I'm about is this misrepresentation of all cops being bad...


Well, that of course would be ridiculous.

Originally posted by Blaine91555
If you consider the number of towns, police forces and the population, even though it seems like lots of cases; they are rare.


This is obviously a matter of taste.

Just remember, one rouge cop impacts with much greater ease the lives of many, many people.

In fact, it occurs to me that makes them a particularly egregious kind of criminal. They have the power to destroy lives and misuse the color of law to disguise their crimes.

Why would you want to minimize the egregiousness of even one case?

Originally posted by Blaine91555
I also imagine what it would be like without police? Think about it.


Well, isn't that a pointless exercise? I don't think any rational person advocates that.

Originally posted by Blaine91555
Also think honestly about the people you know who often have encounters with the police. They deserve it don't they.




A few lily-white, straight-laced, law-abiding, middle-aged, relatively successful business guys?



Nope.

Originally posted by Blaine91555
When I was young, I was not a good person...

...The truth is that most people go their entire lives without ever being in a fight, being arrested or even having to look over their shoulder for cops.


I was a good person, as was nearly everyone I knew. And yet, many of them have similar abuse of power experiences.

Explain that.

Moreover, the way you focus on the majority verses minority argument (that "most cops aren't bad"), you make it appear as if all of the examples of police abuse are committed by cops who commit their crimes alone, when there is ample evidence peers and leadership either routinely ignore the abuse, actively protect its discovery, or in some cases, encourage it.


[edit on 28-8-2008 by loam]


reply posted on 28-8-2008 @ 12:02 AM by mantic
Originally posted by titorite
This is common. This is normal. This happens everyday. That is the state of the nation you live in. The press is censored and controlled. People get disappeared. You may of thought things like controlled media was restricted to Russia or China but it is just the same here as it is there. And that is now the way of things. If you get out of line the police will take you out. They will not face charges. They being of law enforcement are ABOVE the law.

Has that sunk in yet? They can beat you , mace you , and Taze you, and then you will be charged with resisting arrest and assault on a police officer. Then the news media will report it as though it is all your fault and that you are in the wrong. Because the police can do no wrong. Not even when they arrest the news media.

Their is no resistance. I see nobody fight back or organizing citizen patrols. When I watch people terrorized by police misconduct I normally see a whole bunch of people screaming and swearing but I never see anyone stand up to the cops and force them down as they force others down. I only see normal everyday police state business.


May I be allowed to second this statement. People talk the talk, but can't walk the walk. My Pops had his van blown up in brooklyn in the late 60's for standing up. I've taken my lumps from them myself.

This type of thing happens everyday. There were a few varied and diverse groups of peoples trying to warn the other peoples of what was happening to them. Pleading and begging for ears to hear them. It more than not fell upon deaf ears. Now that "they", the man, elite, who ever or what ever you want to call "them" have had years, no decades, scores of practice. "They" are coming for us all. Those other people, the ones warning who weren't heard. They have persevered and have learn how to survive.

I can't call it, but what ever is going on, something is. It's big, it's huge. Deep rooted. Old money. I fear that time is now.


reply posted on 28-8-2008 @ 12:02 AM by 2stepsfromtop
Originally posted by infolurker
All I can say is watch this video of your friendly Denver police.

www.youtube.com...

These cops slam this guys face into the street, breaking his teeth then lie in court. They charge the victim with 2nd degree assault.... UNTIL AN UNKNOWN VIDEO taken by a TV news crew shows what really happened.



Oh! Ocifer James Costigan of the Denver Poolice Department?

COSTIGAN, JAMES
Available(5) Available AURORA, CO
CASTLE ROCK, CO
PARKER, CO
DENVER, CO

This is from awebsite, if you join, you can find anyone anywhere in the United States and get their current home address. See, most people don't realize that this information is out there ... which they should realize ... because they might act a whole lot smarter and polite ... which would prevent someone a whole lot meaner than me from tracking them down and doing unspeakable things to them.

If You Don't Want To Be A Target Stop Acting Like A Jerk!



reply posted on 28-8-2008 @ 12:11 AM by Alexi Humi
Originally posted by jimmyjackblack
Can someone please post a mirror or youtube of the video?
-Jimmy


I had the same problem. Here is the video on Youtube.



There always seems to be a recurring theme in these videos:

1) You're not following my "lawful" order so I am going to put my hands on you, push you around, intimidate you and, ultimately, arrest you.

2) Turn that camera off! I don't want you to have video evidence proving that my charges are false.

I hope that this is not the last that we have heard of this case.


reply posted on 28-8-2008 @ 01:27 AM by eaganthorn
reply to post by DimensionalDetective


So, which night of the week and what time is the Denver City Hall Klan meeting?
Their fellow Klansmen from Decatur, Alabama want to know so they can join in, maybe pick up a few pointers at keeping all those pinkos and commies in line.
They are ever so impressed!!

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