If that guy that had his teeth broken out doesn't sue the life out of those cops,he should have his head examined for real damage.This kind of abuse has to be stopped.I plan on taking my video camera with me all the time,just in case I can catch some cop b.s.

I'm sorry I read this since my blood pressure probably shot up 10 points. I hope ABC finds the most vicious bull dog lawyer and sues the crap out of the Denver police department and the hotel.

I also hope this get's some prominent coverage on ABC. However what are the odds that someone will call the producer and from somewhere in the shadow government and crush the story before it starts. If they don't cover this, then you know that America has become a police state.

Also it would appear that it's just business as usual for the Democrats. Control of the country goes to the highest bidder.

[edit on 27-8-2008 by SevenThunders]

Two points:


1.) Are Denver police allowed to smoke while on duty? Considering the liability issues that might arise should a smoking officer "accidentally" burn a civilian in an encounter, I would think such behavior would be grounds for disciplinary action.

And think of all the people with allergies and acute asthma who could be seriously imperiled by a smoking cop!

If the cop was not on duty at the time of this incident, are off-duty Denver police allowed to wear their official Denver PD uniforms while working as "private security"?



Point Two:


ABCNews is an affiliate of the American Broadcasting Company, which is currently owned by the Disney Corporation.

If ABCNews decides to raise a stink about this incident, there are several Denver police officers who are going to learn, first-hand, that you


NEVER! Mess With the House of The Mouse!

Originally posted by burdman30ott6

Originally posted by Grafilthy
I find it funny they don't protect Brittney Spears from having her picture taken like that....when she is the one who needs it.

The really sad thing is I think the average American would be far more interested in seeing paparazi pictures of Britney's accidental vasheen exposure as she climbs out of an Escalade than they would in seeing pictures of exactly who our representatives are (im)morally and financially in bed with and taking policy setting "suggestions" from.

the average american WANTS to put there head in the sand and i DON'T look down on them for doing that, that was me a couple years ago and is an easier way to cope, and everyone that manipulates and has a "criminal mind" KNOWS this.....so long as they keep the rising economic and mental pain/anguish to a slower boil or let the pain rise but keep us confused as to what the heck should we be mad about.

Originally posted by Bhadhidar
NEVER! Mess With the House of The Mouse!

That's pretty funny.

Originally posted by Alxandro
Looks like the Libs are just as guilty as the Cons.
This is further proof that Obama and company are a bunch of elitists thugs too.

Wait until Obama and crew get to play with all of the shiny new toys Bush & Co. left him.

The NIGHTMARE gets worse.

Originally posted by Keyhole
I thought it would be unusual for the city NOT to own the sidewalk

Hmmm. I thought the opposite-- at least with respect to urban centers.

Originally posted by burdman30ott6
...a good rule of thumb is that if the sidewalk was constructed with tax payer dollars and is maintained by the tax payers, even if it may fall on a small section of private land, it is a public facillity and cannot be controlled by the land owner.

Out of curiosity, I wonder what additional regulatory and control issues come into play, considering the hotel has a historic designation?

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Originally posted by muzzleflash
well why do the "people " keep letting this happen?

why do they just take it without fighting back?

First, I'm as appalled as anyone here by the arrest and abuse of this reporter. Those cops need to face charges and pay a huge price in a civil suit.

People don't "let this happen". These incidents are in fact very rare. I have never seen a Cop do the things I see on some of these video's. I have drunks on the street in front of my office and have seen them dealt with and arrested many dozens of times. Not once did I see any abuse by an Officer in fact they go out of their way to not even touch them and try and calm them down.

The problem here at ATS is we only see the worst of the worst and it can give the impression that is how it is in the US. It is not. As horrible as these events are and as sick as these cops in these videos are, we who live here and are sensible know that these things are so rare most of us are unlikely to see it in our lives.

I was arrested a couple of times in my youth and I did see others manhandled by the Cops, but every time it was the persons fault for fighting them. My only thought was, what kind of idiot fights back with a Cop while being arrested?

I've also been a passenger in a car a couple of times when the driver was arrested. Both times the driver was visibly drunk or high and screamed obscenities at the officers and tried to fight them. Afterward the Cops were very polite to me as they explained I would have to find my own ride home. The driver deserved what happened.

I know these cases are different from what is on this thread, but like I said these things are rare.

We don't do anything about it because there is nothing to do anything about. Most Cops just do their jobs and the only people they even interact with are criminals.

There are many here on ATS who blow this completely out of proportion. I often wonder if it could be they have had such bad experiences due to their own behavior and are just having a tantrum because guilty people can't fight back. When you see someone posting about all their arrests, you can be sure they deserved at least some of them.

For a normal law abiding person like I have been since I quit drugs 25 years ago, we never interact with Police. They never bother us, pull us over or even give a second glance. To know the truth, you have to know the truth about the story teller.

Many of these videos are little bits of what happened and there is no way to know what happened leading up to what is on tape. For all we know the person being worked over may have just kicked a cop in the balls, spit in their face or tried to get them with a weapon. I say this because I have seen that happen.

I think some of our foreign Friends have it in for the US is why they criticize so much even though their countries may be far more repressive than the US. They use these rare little snippets to try and paint a picture that it is the norm; when in fact, you could go through your entire life and never have a bad experience with a Cop.

Bottom line is, there are good cops and bad cops, just as there are good citizens and bad citizens. The bad ones need taken off the street and the good ones don't deserve the crap they get. Also, people who are paranoid of cops are often paranoid for good reason. They know they do things that if they are caught they will be arrested, so they demonize all cops. And of course they are always innocent and they did not mean to do anything In their eyes it is of course their Constitutional right to buy crack from that guy with the gang tattoos who brags about how many he has killed, drive down the road the road weaving between lanes running people of the road or did not mean to hit that little guy in the face busting his mouth open because well, he just deserved it.

I think that denying ignorance includes not exaggerating, blowing out of proportion or flat out lying about what is going on. The only people who see violence on a regular basis are criminals, thugs, drug dealers, pimps, sociopaths and people who watch too much TV. What happened on this tape is terrible and wrong but it does not mean all cops are bad or that all people arrested are innocent. To think so is to embrace ignorance.

I'm done. Sorry for the rant.

Originally posted by DimensionalDetective
So now a SIDEWALK bordering the street is PRIVATE PROPERTY?

Also from your source:

The sheriff's officer is seen telling Eslocker the sidewalk is owned by the hotel. Later, he is seen pushing Eslocker off the sidewalk into oncoming traffic, forcing him to the other side of the street.

Actually, no it's not. By law, sidewalks belong to the City, managed & regulated under the Streets & Roads Department...PUBLIC PROPERTY. Yes, I understood the sarcasm in your question, but thought I'd inject the law here. The question fairly screamed for the point to be made. You'd think that the sheriff's officer would be required to have a bit more knowledge in the law he's sworn to uphold.

Originally posted by DimensionalDetective

Eslocker and his ABC News colleagues are spending the week investigating the role of corporate lobbyists and wealthy donors at the convention for a series of Money Trail reports on ABC World News with Charles Gibson.

The 1st Amendment & investigative reporting at its best...Tyrannical Police State nearly at its worst. I don't need to go any further on that point.

Also from your source:

During the arrest, one of the officers can be heard saying to Eslocker, "You're lucky I didn't knock the f..k out of you."

Oooo! Wrongfully issuing threats of physical violence too...Another charge to add to wrongful arrest! I'll be ABC's lawyers will have a field day with this one!...And I really hope they do!

Originally posted by burdman30ott6
You learn a few things when you make your living as an engineer and one of those things is how to find parcel ownership information which is used in right of way acquisitions & boundary restrictions on roadway design.

Yep...Basic classes in Business Law also make a point about "right of access" for those people/businesses that happen to have their own parcel totally surrounded by another owner's property...In short, the owner of the larger parcel cannot legally deny access to the smaller property that's engulfed by the larger.

But since sidewalks are legally designated as public property, the right of access doesn't even need to be addressed. It's also been established (in court) that, once anyone comes out onto public property, they become fair game for the press anyway.

BTW burdman...Why not copy/send your info to ABC? That kind of info will come in handy for their lawyers!

Originally posted by SevenThunders
I also hope this get's some prominent coverage on ABC. However what are the odds that someone will call the producer and from somewhere in the shadow government and crush the story before it starts. If they don't cover this, then you know that America has become a police state.

They may have to wait until after the trial before ABC can broadcast it publicly...The defense attorney could claim that broadcasting before the trial would bias the general public in the producer's favor & make jury-selection impossible. But once the trial's over, the kid gloves can come off & ABC will have some juicy "trial updates" to add to the initial incident...Which will boost their ratings & get them more funding. This would turn the whole incident into a producer's wet dream!

Originally posted by Blaine91555
I think some of our foreign Friends have it in for the US is why they criticize so much even though their countries may be far more repressive than the US. They use these rare little snippets to try and paint a picture that it is the norm; when in fact, you could go through your entire life and never have a bad experience with a Cop.

Well, part of that could be because those people need to complain about something & speaking out against their own repressive government may be more likely to earn them a bullet to the head, so they complain about how repressive the US is getting instead...

[edit on 27-8-2008 by MidnightDStroyer]

Hmm... Seems as though the folks who justify every action done by bad cops either are too afriad of proving they're full of crap, or they've gone to bed.

Can someone please post a mirror or youtube of the video?
It's either been taken down off the site, or something cause I can't see it, I click on the link in the article, I get nothing, no popup, nothing.

-Jimmy