Why Won't They Reveal Themselves!?!?

ok ok u make a good point on not assuming anything. Ill take u on that one, but it just nvr occured to me that something could POSSIBLY feed off of emotions. I have a wild imagination and i was just floored by ur opinion.

One reason...and one reason alone.

They already have....

They are...

THE ASIANS.

They have supreme intelligence. They have eyes JUST LIKE the eyes of the common alien persona. They are small...large heads....small or no noses....shopsticks? Yeah, those a probing devices. The grills they use for cooking food are also disection tables, have you eve seen how sharp those knives are? Perfect for cutting....HUMAN SKIN?!!?!??! And their soda....its so freggin high tech. There's a marble inside! Has anyone seen this??!?!?!


I'm very sorry...if I have pissed anyone off. This was made in jest to hopefully take away a few of the faces and bring on somefaces...but it probably just made morefaces......

OH WELL!

Honestly, actually, with the thread topic, I think theyre just waiting for their chance to hit us hard and then theyll be like well bitch bam! and kill us all. Or they really just want to make everybody happy and theyre scared to death of all us damn Texans, we'd kill em on sight.

Originally posted by Tjololo
And u should get e reality check. Even with an open mind. I have the right to be skeptical of someones viewpoint or opinion and call them on it. Maybe you should change in your previous post for a reality check.

First, I offered all that I said as a possible reality, I never said I believe it to be so. I may KNOW it to be so, but this knowledge I reserve to myself until requested, and I do not CLAIM to know it, so why should I need to provide evidence for speculation?

"I speculate that it is possible that some planets somewhere have a green sky". If I say this, do you want evidence for that speculation as well?

Like I said, for all intents and purposes I do NOT know anything, and even if I did, I'd much rather you find out yourself, as this evidence would probably NOT include physical evidence. It's very likely that my evidence is logical deduction based on knowledge from observation of this world, the events in it, the people, and reading many different things...

How could I tell you my logical deduction based on my own experiences if you did NOT have those experiences, and the deduction would be meaningless to you? Therefore, what may be evidence to me, may not exist for you. This is why I'd ask you to do your own research, as I cannot PROVE anything to you, but you may be able to PROVE things to yourself.

The best I can do is offer a POSSIBLE truth, that may explain your question, and it is upto you to deduce whether it is indeed true or not.

Originally posted by Tjololo
ok ok u make a good point on not assuming anything. Ill take u on that one, but it just nvr occured to me that something could POSSIBLY feed off of emotions. I have a wild imagination and i was just floored by ur opinion.

If you stop and think about it, what's so ridiculous?

Humans eat animals for one reason, and one reason only: ENERGY. Energy comes in many forms, not just the flesh of other beings. Emotions emit energy. Light is energy. Everything is energy!

Is it so odd that they have a different "energy intake system" and this system is less PHYSICAL than ours, and more psychic or mental? Just as their communication *may* be telepathic, why couldn't their intake of "food" (aka energy) be the same way, remotely?

Now, especially if they are service-to-self oriented beings, negative energy from negative emotions (created by all our human edeavors, especially WARS.. that are often RELIGION BASED). Can you see the possibilities here? Would it not suit them to create religions, and sectionalize humanity into little parts.. and then make sure those parts CONSTANTLY fight with each other? Would it not suit them to keep us ignorant, to give us many ISSUES and emotional problems to deal with to cause constant pain and suffering, but not TOO MUCH so that our numbers can GROW?

Just like we only eat selective livestock, but grow the rest so that we can have more of it...

What is so "flooring" about such speculation? This seems very logical, based on observation of other living beings and their requirements for survival.. energy. Plants use the SUN and convert energy from the SUN, and this is not very physical energy at first, IS IT?

So why not them feeding on us like their personal livestock?

Now you must find out if this is indeed TRUE or not, and this does take effort, as does anything else worth doing. It's upto you, but if you're REALLY curious, and really want to figure it out, you WILL. Persistance does pay off, I *know* this fact from my experience. Can I prove to you that persistance pays off? Nope, you'd have to find out for yourself!

See how one can run into problems trying to prove to others what the person may know for a fact? Very often it must be individually learned as a lesson, and isn't a set of scientific data that can be proven using a "scientific method". An open mind is akin to an open book... it's useless when it's closed

I cannot prove wut u said was ridiculoous, just as you have absolutely no way of proving that your theory is true. Do u expect me to have evidence backing up whether or not aliens feed off of emotions??? I was stating my opinion in which i was providing a counter argument for ur emotion sucker theory, and therfore why would i have evidence on hand about such a wild idea. Preconcieved assumptions and such define something as ridiculous and i apoligize if it came off that way, it is just that you went on typing in a cool and calm manner about how there are two different species of aliens and blah blah blah when u have absolutely no evidence. An opinion is one thing, but you were describing things as if they were from a book or something. It was not that ur idea was ridiculous, it was the way u presented it. And enough with the drama already: " Well I can't help you there... " I especially like the dramatic pause at the end...even tho it is not a person to peeson DIALOGUE. if u notice that when i said that everyone "knows" i put it into parentheses in which i was implying that every vaguely informed person had a vagu knowledge that there is the possibilty that they exist, not that they believe that that they actually exist, just that they think they might. And u are absolutely right that UFO's could be secret projects and that aliens dont exist....but then wouldnt ur argument be a little....ridiculous? Lol sry i dont have the secret governmet files on hand so i can prove that they are secret government projects, even tho that was mentioned by u and not me and i am now defending it. And yes i may have SELF IMPOSED restraints, but they are few and far between, and then again a mental patient could always stop taking his meds that impose upon him the belief that aliens dont really suck out ur emotions and use them as energy. That theory would just be wild woudnt it? and now if u do look at the original post i asked for views on the topic, not all knowing information. I am not that dumb to think that that people would answer knowing exactly why aliens dont reveal themselves, only that they share their opinions with me. and once again with the dramatic dram at the end of ur post. cut it

when i posted that reply about getting a reality check that was directed at another member and not u liblam.

lol yeh as long as u believe it is fact....why dont u back up that fact???? wut is ur experience?

I think there is a teenager in our midst who has been up way too late.

If the aliens are here, then they are not making it public. At least in a way that we can not universally understand or perhaps they contacted what they perceive to be out "leaders" and were asked not to introduce themselves without permission.

Maybe them giving us technology would be like giving a monkey a laptop?
According to the alleged UFO rumors that claim we have found ET technology, it is so far beyond us that it is of no use to us. I once heard it likened to a Fourteenth Century person getting his hands on a Nuclear Sub. They would not know where to begin...how would we?

I am still leaning towards the tranq and tagging theory. We are probably interesting studies to them. Think National Geographic.....

I mean, if we can sedate a lion in the wild, examine it, take notes, put a tracer on it and then put it safely aside to wake up from it's bad dream.....then why can't the same be done to us?

my bad ignore the last post i was thinking that u meant that u knew for a fact that ur theory was true, not that u knew that perserverance paid off. sry misread it

Here is the real reason why the aliens are here, check out my previous post:

www.abovetopsecret.com...

yeh thnx for the teenager comment facefirst it shows just how delightfully funny u are. How witty.

Originally posted by Tjololo
I cannot prove wut u said was ridiculoous, just as you have absolutely no way of proving that your theory is true. Do u expect me to have evidence backing up whether or not aliens feed off of emotions??? I was stating my opinion in which i was providing a counter argument for ur emotion sucker theory, and therfore why would i have evidence on hand about such a wild idea. Preconcieved assumptions and such define something as ridiculous and i apoligize if it came off that way, it is just that you went on typing in a cool and calm manner about how there are two different species of aliens and blah blah blah when u have absolutely no evidence. An opinion is one thing, but you were describing things as if they were from a book or something. It was not that ur idea was ridiculous, it was the way u presented it. And enough with the drama already: " Well I can't help you there... " I especially like the dramatic pause at the end...even tho it is not a person to peeson DIALOGUE. if u notice that when i said that everyone "knows" i put it into parentheses in which i was implying that every vaguely informed person had a vagu knowledge that there is the possibilty that they exist, not that they believe that that they actually exist, just that they think they might. And u are absolutely right that UFO's could be secret projects and that aliens dont exist....but then wouldnt ur argument be a little....ridiculous? Lol sry i dont have the secret governmet files on hand so i can prove that they are secret government projects, even tho that was mentioned by u and not me and i am now defending it. And yes i may have SELF IMPOSED restraints, but they are few and far between, and then again a mental patient could always stop taking his meds that impose upon him the belief that aliens dont really suck out ur emotions and use them as energy. That theory would just be wild woudnt it? and now if u do look at the original post i asked for views on the topic, not all knowing information. I am not that dumb to think that that people would answer knowing exactly why aliens dont reveal themselves, only that they share their opinions with me. and once again with the dramatic dram at the end of ur post. cut it

What do you mean by dramatic? Do I seem to over-sensationalize what may not be quite so sensational or something? I try to present it in an unemotional manner, but I also include what to me at least are meaningful and helpful phrases like "an open mind is like an open book". I am kinda hoping it makes people stop and think for a minute, and possibly learn something that might've previously evaded them etc. That's how I learn, by noticing little phrases, words, sentences here and there... very often unrelated to the topic at hand, and as I dissect them and delve deeper and deeper into the meaning behind them etc... I LEARN. The whole point is to learn isn't it? That's why we're all here, on this website, to try to learn by sharing our knowledge and thoughts with others, and seeing them share what they know back with us.

Often we run into roadblocks where someone argues just for the sake of arguing, and it tends to slow down the overall progress, though it never stops it. If we're determined to learn, we will The problem arises when we are determined to learn and have a preconceived notion of what it SHOULD be before we learn it... but that's for the individual to work out themselves - when and how they see fit.

It's interesting that there are so many QUOTES in people's "signatures" that have such deep and inspiring meanings, and yet the people themselves sometimes say things that clearly demonstrate their own lack of KNOWLEDGE of their OWN signature quotes... isn't it amusing? Somethings moves you, or inspires you, or influences you enough for you to put it in your signature as a little tad of "wisdom", and then you ignore it yourself and fail to understand it as is evident from your statements. (Not YOU, I mean "you" as in any person in general).

Now, about the aliens.. you said I sound like I'm typing something from a book etc? Well, I've had much experience in dealing with these subjects, as I've been reading, discussing, researching, and involved in contacts with people who have certain "connections" shall we say. No, I'm not saying this to sound all "mysterious", but rather DEDICATED.. dedicated to finding truth. I'm in this for one reason only... to seek out and find knowledge (which is only TRUTH, as a falsity is not knowledge to me) and to help others do the same.

Now, even if I did "know" something about aliens, their purpose, etc... do you agree that it may benefit YOU and me if I did not CLAIM to know it, as I couldn't provide you with evidence and would leave you skeptical and in an argument with me instead? Would it then not be more beneficial to offer things as possibilities, and advise that the person who seeks to KNOW the truth searches for it HIMSELF? And once again, I'm NOT trying to imply that I know some deep dark secrets or something... we all know things that others do not in one way or another. However, you might agree that you understand and learn things best when you FIGURE THEM OUT yourself, instead of having someone preach it to you. In addition, by having something be told to you, you'd not really know its validity, so you kinda have no choice but to find out yourself. As you spend time researching and digging, you'll learn many other things ALONG THE WAY (kinda like dorothy eh?) and this may be an overall beneficial learning experience, all started with an idea.

Does this seem better to you than someone claiming to KNOW something, and then telling you that it's the truth... and therefore inviting you to argue and question him, and leaving him unable to offer evidence, and leaving you distressed, and maybe cause you to disregard all the information ENTIRELY as bull#?

Now you know why I work with possibilities. Also, what do you really know anyway? What do any of us know to be true 100%, without there being at least a LITTLE uncertainty and a remote possibility of it not being so? I'd say very little, if ANYTHING AT ALL. Infinity possibilities exist, but they're not all true in our current reality. It's fun to see how much you can access....

Tjololo,

Your reply that mentions nothing of the rest of my post simply strenghthens what I stated.

[Edited on 17-3-2004 by Facefirst]

I find it cool that aliens dont reveal themselves to us its more fun so there are more topics to talk about.

u make EXCELLENT points liblam and i appreciate sry if i was argumentitive, it was just that i WAS floored by the emotion thing, but when u put it the way u did with all of enrgy being interelated, it does make sense. ( in a wierd way.) I am relatively new to this kind of thing and I would also like to begin research into the subject. If u could provide any links or possibilities to begin my research i would greatly appreciate it. If not then ill go it alone, but either way thank u for all of ur posts, they do seem very well informed.

Originally posted by drunk
I find it cool that aliens dont reveal themselves to us its more fun so there are more topics to talk about.

It's the same as.. if you knew everything there is to know, wouldn't you be bored and wish you did NOT know it so you can be intrigued and have fun finding stuff out?

Though it's a cute concept to play with in your mind, there is infinity of stuff to learn, so we never stop learning. Thank "God" for that eh?

Lilblam,

I agree whole heartedly. If you knew everything......where would be the fun of discovery or the thrill of mystery?

facefirst i did not think to reply to the rest of the post because most of it was already covered. Examples: monkey and laptop already covered with respect to advanced technological capabilities and intelligence. tranq and tag thing kinda new but did not bother to respond cuz u started ur post off with an insult in which u stated ur case in a way that i felt that u felt that u could talk down to me for some reason that is why i did not answer the rest of ur post. ur still "witty and funny" tho

if u have a question relating to any of my posts tho ill gladly answer to the best of my ability.

Ok, here's one, are you 16 or 17?

But seriously, you have alot of enthusiasm. Very cool. Here is a heads up, the History Channel is having a show on UFOs tonight at 8pm. (check historychannel.com for exact schedule info)