Police slam CodePink protester to the ground, page 3
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reply posted on 26-8-2008 @ 10:27 PM by depth om
reply to post by projectvxn


My guess is he isn't married. If you ever loved a woman or have had a daughter/son.. you wouldn't dump that pain onto someone.

Perhaps he was threatened. When people are confronted with something they don't understand, they do one of three things, ignore it, inspect it, or destroy it.


reply posted on 26-8-2008 @ 10:47 PM by spookjr
reply to post by jimmyjackblack
And I'll be right there with you bro. Except I'll be armed to the teeth.


reply posted on 26-8-2008 @ 11:01 PM by depth om
reply to post by Alferd Packer


I thought that but, it sort of backfired if she was a provacateur. They're getting massive hate over this, instead of the protesters being demonized as usual.


reply posted on 26-8-2008 @ 11:09 PM by gnosis111
reply to post by Blaine91555


She absolutely did NOT make a %$#@! threatening statement!!!!

She said "Do it F$##@! again!" If she would have added "and see what happens" then maybe. It seems more like the cop had done something earlier in the video, not her.

This is un-acceptable. And un-believable. Is this being show on the MSM networks? What is sad is a lot of people I know believe this is how protestors and activists should be treated. We are a country of ignorance and blind idiocy. It's bad enough being an idiot, but blind as well.....despicable.


reply posted on 26-8-2008 @ 11:15 PM by bloodcircle
Originally posted by Blaine91555
reply to post by TaZCoN


Code Pink is known for getting themselves arrested on purpose. That is why I was hesitant.

What if, just prior to where the tape starts she kicked the officer in the groin or spit in his eye? See my dilemma.

Propaganda comes from both sides and both sides lie. It's hard to know without seeing everything that went on.



Then she would have been apprehended as soon as she hit the floor and cuffed. Not left while the officer wandered a bit and onlookers went to her aid, then for her to be giving an interview only to be abducted.

If she did anything warranting arrest it would not have gone down like that.

Comes across to me as lawthug loses temper on protestor, goes talks to superior, superior says "Well go get her we'll make up some charge." and bam.




reply posted on 26-8-2008 @ 11:33 PM by MidnightDStroyer
While there's too little of the video to figure out the circumstances before & after the actual "event," I think it may be thought-provoking to actually establish what a Police Officers actual Oath of Office is:

U.S. Federal and Military Oath of Office
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Viking Phoenix Web Page: U.S. Federal and Military Oath of Office
Oath of Office - "...support and defend the Constitution..."
ยง 3331. Oath of office

An individual, except the President, elected or appointed to an office of honor or profit in the civil service or uniformed services, shall take the following oath:

" I, AB, do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic; that I will bear true faith and allegiance to the same; that I take this obligation freely, without any mental reservation or purpose of evasion; and that I will well and faithfully discharge the duties of the office on which I am about to enter. So help me God.''
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By Ralph Kermit Winterrowd, 2nd.

I filed a Case, No. 3AN-98-11676 CI in a Common-Law Court venue and jurisdiction in the city of Anchorage, Alaska in December of 1998 for the right of true ownership of my pickup, which has no tags and is not registered or titled in the State of Alaska. I'm suing the Anchorage Policemen individually, the Municipality of Anchorage, the Police Chief and others for unlawfully removing my private property from private property to have it impounded.

Since this case started, I sued the Superior Court Judge Reese assigned to this case in his individual capacity and he requested to be removed from the case. Superior Court Judge Shortell has been appointed to the case and I'm waiting for him to Trespass on the case. All of the defendants have defaulted as of February 23, 1999.

Ongoing research since this case was started has revealed that THERE ARE NO PUBLIC OFFICERS in Alaska. We have a corporate state of EMPLOYEES. There is very distinct difference between a Public Officer and an Employee. "A 'public officer' as distinguished from an 'employee' must be vested by law with a portion of the sovereignty of state [of the people!] and authorized to exercise functions either of an executive, legislative, or judicial character." Jaeger Mfg. Co. v. Maryland casualty Co., 300 N.W. 680, 684, 231 Iowa 151.

More at the link, but the point is clear...Federal Officers & Military Personnel must take an Oath of Office to defend the Constitution. The Constitution itself goes even further, requiring all Officers of all three Branches on both State & Federal levels to take the Oath of Office pursuant to the Constitution. It would be best to also check your local Municipal Codes to see if that extends all the way down to the City level too.

So, if indeed, these "Police Officers" have violated an Oath of Office, they can be removed from Office (as in "Impeached!"), indicted for trial & also be automatically disqualified from holding any other office of honor, trust or profit for the rest of their lives...As it says in the Constitution (Article 1, Section 3, Clause 7 & Article 2, Section 4)


reply posted on 26-8-2008 @ 11:39 PM by roamer101

while its true that she seems to threaten the police officer in the video, and that we do not know what happened before, the officers reaction was uncalled for.


Her name was Alicia Forrest. She witnessed the arrest of someone in the street near the Denver Civic Center Park and when she and others nearby asked police why the man was being arrested she was shoved to the ground. After she got up and was explaining herself to nearby reporters she was then grabbed by the Denver police and arrested. The actions of the Denver police seemed unjustified and extreme IMHO.

The story from CODEPINK:

DENVER - Before arresting a member of the women's peace group, CODEPINK, police officers here shoved the woman to the ground with a raised baton, left her on the ground in pain for several minutes, and when she began answering questions to reporters nearby, an officers pulled her roughly away by the elbows to arrest her, according to eyewitness accounts at a press conference held outside the jail.

Alicia Forrest, 24, of Los Angeles, was arrested on charges of interference near 12 p.m. today, moments before the beginning of a demonstrator's march here during the Democratic National Convention. The Rocky Mountain News has released video documenting the events here (www.rockymountainnews.com... [1]).

Forrest had allegedly witnessed the arrest of an unidentified man in the street near the Denver Civic Center Park when she and others nearby asked police why the man was being arrested. After she was pushed to the ground, according to an eyewitness account at activist group's Reacreate 68's press conference, police then arrested Forrest.

She was transported her to the warehouse processing center in Denver, according to city officials. By 2:30 p.m., she had been transferred to the Denver City Jail where bond was posted for $580 bail. She is awaiting release."


reply posted on 27-8-2008 @ 12:06 AM by fleabit
For what it's worth, people shouldn't make snap judgements based on what they see in a short clip that doesn't cover the entire event. There ARE dumbass cops who think they are tough because they have a gun, tazer, baton, whatever. There are also good cops. Not all cops are inherently "evil" as some make them out to be.

When I served in the Army, both in Korea and on the Presidio, I was on riot control. The stuff we had to learn and go through was kinda nuts. Many of those groups sole purpose is to upset you so badly, that you retaliate. They WANT you to slam them down, hit them, arrest them. I had people spitting in my face, yelling and screaming the worst obsenities. I had a black guy who was a good friend who always stood to my right in the line, and civilians would make every racist comment they could think of to try to upset him to the point of attacking them (he never did, nor did I). You have to learn where you can't hit them (which ironically is almost everywhere, there are very few spots you are "allowed" to strike them, and only if you must), how to remain nuetral and keep a straight face, and not even say a word in response.

We had Dykes on Bikes hurl water balloons filled with urine and blood at us. I had people threaten me. And these were animal rights activists for cripes sake. They were the "calm" ones.

So while I don't doubt there are many cops that could use a new job, as they are not fit to do their duties because of their elitist complex, there are a whole lot that are very good guys and gals, just trying to do their jobs. Don't assume cops are "bad" because they are cops. The amount of utter crap they have to put up with is staggering.

Just trying to play devil's advocate a bit.

[edit on 27-8-2008 by fleabit]


reply posted on 27-8-2008 @ 12:09 AM by Kaiser Sohse
Shoot to kill.

There was a story here in NoCal yesterday where police fired 20 shots into the windshield of a stopped vehicle and killed a young man with no criminal record:

Dead men tell no tales

Apparently he evaded the cops, and wrecked his truck into a ditch and fence. He tried to get the truck out, and he was killed in a hail of bullets.

I've linked the witness testimony, but the crazy thing was that on the news, you could clearly see that the truck was jammed up against a fence and could in no way to be considered a danger to an armed group of officers.

There was a CHP spokesman who verbally outlined exactly what happened, with the bullet-riddled windshield in the background, in a completely justified manner and tone.

Now, eyes can be deceiving, and I wasn't there, but looking at this report I could only think to myself "why not just shoot the tires? The frickin' truck isn't goin' nowhere, and there are the tires directly open to the line of fire?"

The bottom line is that we live in a world of angry cops. For whatever reason, the general population is to always be considered a threat until proven otherwise or incapacitated. Just stop and talk to one sometime. You feel it in thier tones and body language.

It's a shoot first and ask questions later kind of world nowadays. Heaven forbid that the crosshairs of justice even think of glancing in my direction, because I'll be adopting the same policy as these government goons.
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