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reply posted on 26-8-2008 @ 09:00 PM by GradyPhilpott
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Originally posted by Dan Tanna
First they came for the Communists and I said nothing. Then they went for the jews, and I said nothing. then they came for the Gypsies, and I said
nothing. Then they came for me, and there was no one left to speak out for me.
Give me a break. That's so far from reality, it's ludicrous.
Conduct yourself in a civil manner and you can say anything you wan't in America, as long as you don't insult one of our hyper-sensitive minorities.
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reply posted on 26-8-2008 @ 09:01 PM by DeadFlagBlues
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I wouldn't say "Do it again" is a threatening statement, and as he needs to uphold a code of conduct as a servant of the public, a police officer,
he also has the duty as a grown man to not smash a young girls face in with a billy club. Call me crazy, but I don't think any man should use that
kind of force to get their point across to a woman. An absolute shocking display of force by the toughest guy ever.
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reply posted on 26-8-2008 @ 09:04 PM by Techsnow
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Originally posted by GradyPhilpott
Given Code Pink's reputation and their documented tactics, including harassing Marine recruiters, the benefit of the doubt goes to the police and
frankly, that's the most heartwarming video I've seen in a long time.
[edit on 2008/8/26 by GradyPhilpott]
I don't know what makes more sick to my stomach. That video or this quote.
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reply posted on 26-8-2008 @ 09:06 PM by UFOTECH
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At 8 seconds into this video clip the cop yells out "back it up bitch!" while simultaneously slamming her to the ground with his stick. He can
expect to come up on charges for assault for that. There is enough in the raw video to have him suspended and possibly fired for conduct unbecoming an
officer and excessive use of force.
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reply posted on 26-8-2008 @ 09:09 PM by Blaine91555
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Code Pink is known for getting themselves arrested on purpose. That is why I was hesitant.
What if, just prior to where the tape starts she kicked the officer in the groin or spit in his eye? See my dilemma.
Propaganda comes from both sides and both sides lie. It's hard to know without seeing everything that went on.
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reply posted on 26-8-2008 @ 09:09 PM by FewWorldOrder
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The well-coordinated, pre-planned, rapid extraction of that particular 'troublemaker' was quite effective I noticed.
These guys are obviously receiving excellent training.
US Taxpayers are paying for their own demise, I'm one of 'em.
Just shoot me now.
Thanks
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reply posted on 26-8-2008 @ 09:15 PM by pluckynoonez
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I was down there in the Free Speech Zone yesterday when they were singing songs. Their message was a little confusing, some said they were not
protesting but bringing a message of peace. Other members were saying they were protesting. All in all, a mellow event mid-afternoon. One cop was
taking pictures and wanted to meet the Code Pink girls; I asked if it was for "the file" and the cop said he just wanted it for his own personal
use, for he is a fan of Code Pink (this cop, incidently, was not decked in riot-gear).
Why do I miss all the action?
And I was just down there 30 minutes ago and the Free Speech Zone was empty, not a soul in sight. What am I doing wrong?
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reply posted on 26-8-2008 @ 09:16 PM by Blaine91555
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I'm not anti-protest, nor am I for Cops who overreact.
I was referring to the tone of her voice and the fact we do not know what happened before the scene came into view. Nobody here knows.
What happened to the second lady was just plain wrong and angers me as much as anyone here.
I also know that it is not beyond reason to think that this whole scene was instigated on purpose by Code Pink. It would not be the first time in
fact.
Peaceful protesters, I would lay down my life for.
Violent protesters need to go home, slap their parents for raising such a jerk and grow up before they come back out in public.
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reply posted on 26-8-2008 @ 09:17 PM by TaZCoN
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Originally posted by Blaine91555
reply to post by TaZCoN
What if, just prior to where the tape starts she kicked the officer in the groin or spit in his eye? See my dilemma.
If that were indeed the case...
I would have to believe the mob that swarmed, and whisked the other woman away off to neverland would have done the same, before the so called
'peace officer' had the opportunity to beat her to the ground.
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reply posted on 26-8-2008 @ 09:22 PM by Blaine91555
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Could be, but I'd sure like to see the whole story. These little vignettes leave way to much to the imagination.
I only hope that the peaceful protesters get their messages out and that nobody gets hurt because of violent ones and overly aggressive Cops.
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reply posted on 26-8-2008 @ 09:28 PM by Interestinggg
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reply posted on 26-8-2008 @ 09:32 PM by depth om
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Careful brother! You've perpetrated thoughtcrime a.c11.4
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reply posted on 26-8-2008 @ 09:33 PM by Maxmars
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The issue here is the reasonable application of proportionate force.
Policing used to mean 'keeping the peace', now it's 'enforcing the law'.
Was this action in response to a threat? It is 'reasonable' to believe that there was a purpose other than inflict pain and humiliation to this
action? Is smashing someone to the ground commensurate with civil disobedience and dissent? Not in my America, what is on this video is not my
America, in MY America citizens are kept safe and protected by public servants.
So if this isn't MY America, who's is it?
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reply posted on 26-8-2008 @ 09:34 PM by TaZCoN
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Originally posted by Blaine91555
reply to post by TaZCoN
Could be, but I'd sure like to see the whole story. These little vignettes leave way to much to the imagination.
I only hope that the peaceful protesters get their messages out and that nobody gets hurt because of violent ones and overly aggressive Cops.
Agreed!
Actions like this, by so called 'peace officers' cannot however become accepted nor justified as "just doing my job" or "just following
orders"
If it is...our society truly is doomed.
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reply posted on 26-8-2008 @ 09:37 PM by Interestinggg
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Originally posted by Maxmars
The issue here is the reasonable application of proportionate force.
Policing used to mean 'keeping the peace', now it's 'enforcing the law'.
Was this action in response to a threat? It is 'reasonable' to believe that there was a purpose other than inflict pain and humiliation to this
action? Is smashing someone to the ground commensurate with civil disobedience and dissent? Not in my America, what is on this video is not my
America, in MY America citizens are kept safe and protected by public servants.
So if this isn't MY America, who's is it?
They are acting more and more like hired thugs.
Resembling something out of Dr Evils private henchman army.
These ones you see at these things are carefully selected for there dumbness and love of brute force.
The real good cops, who actually want to help people, who I don't want to kill in my thought crime, become targets because of these goons.
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reply posted on 26-8-2008 @ 09:50 PM by hypervigilant
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I cant' believe you people don't know that this is the way that cops act when they're in a large group. Haven't you witnessed it in nature films,
or on Animal Planet? I had a cop brag to me that he could hit the front of my spine, with his baton. They are all neo - cons, you know?
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reply posted on 26-8-2008 @ 09:52 PM by TaZCoN
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Originally posted by Maxmars
The issue here is the reasonable application of proportionate force.
Policing used to mean 'keeping the peace', now it's 'enforcing the law'.
Was this action in response to a threat? It is 'reasonable' to believe that there was a purpose other than inflict pain and humiliation to this
action? Is smashing someone to the ground commensurate with civil disobedience and dissent? Not in my America, what is on this video is not my
America, in MY America citizens are kept safe and protected by public servants.
So if this isn't MY America, who's is it?
Yours, and My America has been bought and payed for (stolen) by corporate greed, and shadow (or not so transparent anymore) tyranny.
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reply posted on 26-8-2008 @ 10:18 PM by projectvxn
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Cracking a woman in the face must make him feel like a man.
There is no reason why that big man needed to do that to such a small woman. I realize chivalry is a dying concept, but there are just something a man
should NEVER do. What do you want to bet this guy asserts his position at home by beating the piss out of his wife?
There was no justification for this.
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reply posted on 26-8-2008 @ 10:22 PM by TheOneEyedProphet
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while its true that she seems to threaten the police officer in the video, and that we do not know what happened before, the officers reaction was
uncalled for.
I do not believe the woman kicked the cop, or spat in his eye, if that would have been the case, I'm sure she would have been tasered, kicked,
batoned and jailed in no particular order...
I can understand the cops being nervous and weary of the general public, as the masses can be quite unpredictable, but the only "weapon" I see is a
pink umbrella of some sort...
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reply posted on 26-8-2008 @ 10:27 PM by jerico65
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Originally posted by UFOTECH
At 8 seconds into this video clip the cop yells out "back it up bitch!" while simultaneously slamming her to the ground with his stick.
At 1 second into this video, you hear someone say, "move away from the vehicle". Guess that meant everyone but her, huh?
And before he hit her, you hear her say, "do that again".
Guess she might be engaging her brain/mouth filter next time.
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