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Obama DID NOT say that Ayers is respectable and mainstream
Originally posted by loam
reply to post by centurion1211
I have to admit, that is a pretty sad attempt.
Hey, Krieger, at least pick some of the associations in the Keating Five affair. That might make more sense.
Originally posted by jetxnet
And how do you know he didn't? I'm sure we can find a video out there somewhere with him saying it.
The Ayers' had him over to their house to introduce him to the Chicago Hyde Park Political Crime syndicate.
Originally posted by Benevolent Heretic
No one has shown that they are "friends". In fact, Obama denies it and denounces what Ayers did in the past, back when Obama was riding his tricycle.
Interaction between Obama and Ayers
Ayers and his wife, Bernardine Dohrn hosted a "meet-and-greet" political meeting for Obama at their home in the Hyde Park section of Chicago, where the Ayers and the Obamas lived. It was at this meeting that then State Senator Alice Palmer introduced Barack Obama as her chosen successor.[6] Although the exact date of the meeting is not known, it was sometime in the second half of 1995, according to Ben Smith, a reporter for The Politico.[3] Chicagoan Maria Warren wrote in 2005 on her Musings & Migraines blog: "When I first met Barack Obama, he was giving a standard, innocuous little talk in the livingroom of [...] Bill Ayers and Bernardine Dohrn. They were launching him — introducing him to the Hyde Park community as the best thing since sliced bread."[3]
Obama's worked for a time with the Chicago Annenberg Challenge, a large education-related nonpforit organization Ayers was instrumental in starting. Obama served as president of the Challenge board of directors during the 1990s, when the board disbursed grants to schools and raised private matching funds while Ayers worked with the operational arm of the effort. Both attended some board meetings in common starting in 1995,[7][8]retreats, and at least one news conference together as the education program started. They continued to attend meetings together during the 1995-2001 period when the program was operating.[8]
Obama and Ayers served together for three years on the board of the Woods Fund of Chicago, an anti-poverty foundation established in 1941. Obama had joined the nine-member board in 1993, and had attended a dozen of the quarterly meetings together with Ayers in the three years up to 2002, when Obama left his position on the board,[4] which Ayers chaired for two years.[9] Laura S. Washington, chairwoman of the Woods Fund, said the small board had a collegial "friendly but businesslike" atmosphere, and met four times a year for a half-day, mostly to approve grants.[10] The two also appeared together on academic panel discussions, including a 1997 University of Chicago discussion on juvenile justice. They again appeared in 2002 at an academic panel co-sponsored by the Chicago Public Library.[4] One panel discussion in which they both appeared was organized by Obama's wife, Michelle.[11] Ayers donated $200 to Obama's 2001 state senate campaign.[12]
Link.
I think if somebody is hosting on your behalf a "meet and greet" to launch your political career...and you've actually stood in their living room...and worked as President in the non-profit organization they founded....and served together on the same 9 member board of another organization...and were together in a number of other public events, panels and speeches, you don't get to pass this off as some distant association.
Really now. Can you dispute any of the above???
Originally posted by Krieger
What? I'm just using the same logic you're using to "prove" Obama will personally bomb every home in America if elected because he now knows a guy who when Obama was 8 blew some stuff up.
Originally posted by Krieger
Have you not read the Neocon posts? Not seen the Neocon BS Ad? It's all about how Obama knows a terrorist and is one and will blow stuff up if elected. Of course its all BS as Obama was 8 when this guy did stuff and he isn't friends with this guy, or supports him, like you and the Neocon posts and ads state.
Originally posted by Krieger
You realize how blatant your lies are when you post in a topic that proves my point. This entire topic proves what I am saying. This topic, and that ad existing, prove my point. Every post in this topic proves what I am saying. You, me, BH, everyone. The fact that this topic exists proves everything that I am saying.
Originally posted by Krieger
reply to post by loam
The logic in that ad and in these posts is that since Obama knows a guy who blew up buildings when he was 8 he will now blow up buildings because he's a terrorist.