Here's the Ad Obama is suing to keep you from watching, page 3
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reply posted on 26-8-2008 @ 10:50 PM by Andrew E. Wiggin
reply to post by jetxnet



Yeah --- yiou're soooo right

Obama never accomplished anything as an Illinois senator

Obama never accomplished anything as a United States senator

Obama never accomplished anything in uniting people under one banner





What new hallucinogenic drug has the GOP come up with that doesnt show up on modern drug scans?

Because you're all living in a backwards world if you realy believe the lies you spread about the man...

has he said stupid things? Yes
has he voted on things i dont agree with ? Yes

but it doesnt mean that your'e right in furthering the lies and smears by inventing false truths

you really should be ashamed

but so should Bill Clinton


I guess really - when you boil it odwn to its core

Conservatives are just like Bill Clinton in this election


moping and crying because they just can't beat Barack Obama


reply posted on 26-8-2008 @ 11:32 PM by sos37
reply to post by Benevolent Heretic



BH, that Obama ad pretty much assumes voters can't do the math for themselves. No one is accusing Obama of befriending Ayers WHILE he was an active member of the Weather Underground - the problem is that Obama served as Chair on the CAC with Ayers and their relationship has been called a friendship by many, even the mayor of Chicago (see the thread I started here: www.abovetopsecret.com...)

Ayers admitted much later on that he was unrepentant for his actions and wished he could have done more, which means he never let go of his views that drove him to do things like bomb the Pentagon which would extend into Obama's adulthood. For Obama to be friends with this man calls the extent of which those beliefs were shared into question. But you know this. You're smarter than the people that ad targets which you posted. Why are you spinning for Obama so badly?

There is also more smoke to this ad - also referenced in the thread I linked. If there is nothing for Obama and Ayers to hide, why were supposedly public documents which documented Obama's time as chair of the CAC suddenly locked when Stanley Kurtz requested access? What was being hidden in those files?

[edit on 26-8-2008 by sos37]


reply posted on 27-8-2008 @ 12:31 AM by DYepes
I believe this can be summed up quite simply put.

The whole point of the Weathermen was that they attacked in retaliation for imperialist actions by the United states government using their military might to commit crimes against the people of the world. they issued statements and warnings ahead of all bombings, and noone was ever killed as a result (save for an accident which claimed the lives of three of their own).
source

Violence aside, this organization shared the same beliefs that many, I would say hundreds, if not thousands of ATS members share, and post on a daily basis. In a time of conflict however, they declared a direct war against the criminals, attacking their bases of power within our borders.

As time has shown, not the best way to go about changin your government. Although many would disgress.

I believe that perhaps Obama shares the same views, that the Federal government of the US has become far too corrupted and imperialistic in world affairs, as well as domestic ones.

However, two men, be they friends or not, may share the same views, and passionatly feel and take two completely different solutions to solve the problem. I dont see Obama as a fanatical by association, because then you would support hampering the liberties of members of ATS for sharing the same views. You do not have to be radical to agree your governing body has become corrupted and needs change.

They tried to make him a terrorist by name, and it failed.
They tried to make him a terrorist by religion (lies), it too failed.
They now try to make him a terrorist by association, it too will fail.

The attacks are betting on the fears of the ignorant. But as the truth is revealed, and the record is set straight, they lose their credibility with each fear mongering attack. They want you to be afraid of him, to be afraid of change.

Well noone is buying it anymore, we all know it is nothing but dirty tricks. Half-truths and whole lies.


reply posted on 27-8-2008 @ 01:53 AM by Stormdancer777

Documents released Tuesday by the University of Illinois at Chicago shed some light on Barack Obama’s relationship with William Ayers, a founding member of the 1960s and 1970s radical group the Weather Underground.


Newly Released Documents Highlight Obama’s Relationship With Ayers
elections.foxnews.com...



The massive collection of newly released documents — 140 boxes full of them — includes agendas that clearly put Obama and Ayers in the same room for meetings of Chicago Annenberg Challenge, an educational initiative that Ayers was instrumental in starting and that Obama chaired in the 1990s.


www.suntimes.com...


reply posted on 27-8-2008 @ 01:59 AM by pluckynoonez
reply to post by Golack



Who is American Issues? Eh?

That commercial felt like an entire episode of Sean Hannity's radio program. Twas painful. Are you sure Sean Hannity didnt pay for the ad?


reply posted on 27-8-2008 @ 02:03 AM by seabisquit
reply to post by zorgon



Teens have a very poor record of voting so I would not think it would make much of a difference.I tend to agree with those that say the elite control both of these guys(obama/TLC;Mccain/CFR,both Bilderberger fronts).

Just to throw another wrench in this discussion,don't forget that Bush passed bills last year that essentially would make him dictator should any "emergency " occur. This would cause a suspension of any election and place us under martial law.Chips anyone?
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