Originally posted by Azrael75
all these "facts" brought to you by the same people the convinced you that a draft dodging cheerleader with a fear of horses was the brave cowboy and the vietnam vet was a nerdy wimpy liar. you can watch these ads and simply buy it and just vote for mccain like you are going to anyway. or you can get actually do some research and find the real facts for yourself. but limbaugh or hannity probably havent ordered you to do that.

Originally posted by Azrael75

all these "facts" brought to you by the same people the convinced you that a draft dodging cheerleader with a fear of horses was the brave cowboy and the vietnam vet was a nerdy wimpy liar. you can watch these ads and simply buy it and just vote for mccain like you are going to anyway. or you can get actually do some research and find the real facts for yourself. but limbaugh or hannity probably havent ordered you to do that.

Originally posted by Alora

Originally posted by jetxnet
Obama should let this one slide-on-by. Afterall, he has nothing to worry about, right?

Sadly there are enough people out there who will believe anything they are told, so he actually does have something to worry about from those people.

Exactly! That's exactly what we see happening with Obama supporters! They believe what they are being told, by a guy with no real accomplishments or leverage in the political system.

Theres 2 MAIN reasons why people are voting for Obama:

#1 He is a smooth talker and in a sense a Rico Suave.

#2 He is not a republican.


Ask the typical Obama supporter why they support him and they can give you no reason. Ask ANY McCain supporter and at least you get an answer with details if prompted.

After a thorough examination, the only thing I see in this ad that might not be true is the word "friends" at the end. I don't know that there's evidence that these two see eachother regularly. The rest of the commercial seems factual though.

Hillary Clinton's response: "Senator Obama served on a board with Mr. Ayers for a period of time, the Woods Foundation, which was a paid directorship position. And if I'm not mistaken, that relationship with Mr. Ayers on this board continued after 9/11 and after his reported comments, which were deeply hurtful to people in New York, and I would hope to every American, because they were published on 9/11 and he said that he was just sorry they hadn't done more."

Originally posted by mystiq
I do not want McCain to win no matter what. Period! The world could not take one more term like that last one!

Two men could conceivably serve on a board together and not be friends. The campaign contribution doesn't really provide any evidence either. Anybody can donate money to his campaign and that doesn't indicate that they're friends with the candidate.

I would like to see some evidence that these two actually meet besides businesses meetings where they are on the same board. This would be pretty damning if that one missing piece can be verified.

“When I first met Barack Obama, he was giving a standard, innocuous little talk in the living room of those two legends-in-their-own-minds, Bill Ayers and Bernardine Dohrn,” Warren wrote on her blog in 2005. “They were launching him — introducing him to the Hyde Park community as the best thing since sliced bread.”

Contacted by e-mail, Warren declined to describe the meeting further and later blogged of her concern that Republicans would use accounts of the event for “left-baiting.”

When one looks at Obama, it's shocking how radical and anti-American his closest associates are. Taken separately, the black liberation theology of the Rev. Jeremiah Wright, or fundraiser William Ayers' unrepentant past as a 1960s terrorist or Obama's openly pro-Che Guevara volunteers in Houston might be dismissed.

But taken together, and given Obama's closeness to his friends, it's fair to ask whether Obama doesn't share their extreme-left views. Yet whenever he's asked, he gets mad and avoids the issue.

Maybe that's not surprising, given that Obama himself began his career as a Chicago community organizer and worked on projects there influenced by Saul Alinsky. The Marxist Machiavellian of the Chicago scene advised budding revolutionaries in his 1971 book "Rules For Radicals" to conceal their radical affiliations to attain greater power. That works well for Marxists.

You have to consider what city this man has begun his career. There are alot of former radical activists from a time when government and military oppression were open and rampant. I dont condone the killings, but cant say they have committed any crimes forty years later now have they?

Then there's Obama's friend ex-Weather Underground terrorist Bill Ayers, another Marxist. Not only did Ayers set off terrorist bombs against "the establishment" with no regrets during the 1960s, he told the New York Times "we didn't do enough."

Originally posted by wisefoolishness
Excuse me, but..

why the hell is this propaganda b.s. breaking news?

Anywhoo..come on. This is just getting rediculous now.