Russia ready for 'anything': Medvedev

Russia ready for 'anything': Medvedev

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MOSCOW, Aug 26, (Thomson Financial) - Russia is not afraid of a new Cold War taking hold and is ready for "anything," Russian President Dmitry Medvedev said on Tuesday in a television interview.

"We're not afraid of anything (including) the prospect of a Cold War.

Asked whether Russia was ready for the consequences of recognising Abkhazia and South Ossetia, Medvedev said: "If they want to preserve good relations with Russia, they will understand the reason for taking such a decision and the situation will be calm."

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Translation: If russia decides to embark on another imperialistic endeavor, the rest of the world can just lube up and bend over.

The soviet union is back ...

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The soviet union is back ...

All I can say to that is...great.

Finally we have a country who isn't going to get down on its knees for America.

Originally posted by centurion1211


Translation: If russia decides to embark on another imperialistic endeavor, the rest of the world can just lube up and bend over.

The soviet union is back ...

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And I was so used to America's--f-yeah!--"imperialistic endeavors" being regarded as righteous, humanitarian, and with Jesus.

Ah finally there is a counterweight again. I like it when things are in balance. As long as the nukes stay where they are ofcourse. Russia embarks on a small scale military mission and all hell breaks lose all over the world and the Western world is tearing 2 countries apart but that is ok, it is for oil erh, against terorrism. Well this is for oil erh, protecting Russians.

Anyway, not saying it is all right and dandy but i am saying that countries involved in the gangraping of two middle eastern countries should not be crying about a minor expedition into a country where the president eats ties on live television, not worth it.

Originally posted by twisted_fate

The soviet union is back ...

All I can say to that is...great.

Finally we have a country who isn't going to get down on its knees for America.

You have to respect the Russians for that. They don't take it from anyone. I'm also glad the Bear is out of hibernation. It may give the Americans some hesitations before they continue their plans to take over the world.

Originally posted by centurion1211
Translation: If russia decides to embark on another imperialistic endeavor, the rest of the world can just lube up and bend over.

Lets first see if the Georgian episode was 'imperialistic' at all. Last time i checked they didn't send a paratrooper division/ cruise missiles to assasinate the Georgian president so this still seems like a positively engligtened type of imperialism to me.

The soviet union is back ...

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It Soviet Union's leaders never really left the scene and the crisis in the late 90's was merely the western bankers scoring some success with their economic terrorism. The USSR were like the US upgrading and deploying new ICBMs and ABM defenses well in the mid 90's and the reform process they initiated starting in the 80's, and resulting in the Berlin wall coming down, should never have been presumed a victory.

Isn't it strange how American leaders proclaimed victory in Vietnam, Korea, the 'cold war' and Iraq and how non of it turned out to be actual victories? Anyone starting to spot a trend yet or do you think the US is deploying F-22's and a a new generation of hunter submarines and strike aircraft to fight OBL?

Stellar

Originally posted by Scurvy
I'm also glad the Bear is out of hibernation. It may give the Americans some hesitations before they continue their plans to take over the world.

These kinds of responses would be laughable - IF they weren't so painfully naive.

Before we try to imagine "America taking over the world", let's look at reality with some questions.

What is the largest country in the world? Russia.

How di it get to be the largest country in the world? By conquering all of its neigboring countries.

What did russia do with all the countries it "liberated" during World War II? Turned them into totalitaritarian puppet states (warsaw pact) based on the russian model. It took an additional 50 years for most of those countries to actually become liberated, and obviously russia still has dreams and plans to get them all back.

What did russia do when one of the warsaw pact countries decided to try and go their own way? Sent the russian army to those countries to crush any opposition. Hungary and Czechoslovakia are examples.

What is russia still doing when a puppet state attempts to break away? Same as before - see all the articles about their Georgia invasion and occupation.

But to the russophiles here, all the above is and was somehow a good thing.

So, now which country is most likely to have world domination objectives?

82 for the lot of you.



[edit on 8/26/2008 by centurion1211]

Originally posted by centurion1211

So, now which country is most likely to have world domination objectives?

I think we ALL know the answer to this question. Both! And you're right in the fact that it's a good thing. With no power monopoly (as if the banking cartel weren't the ones in real control), maybe now we'll have a slight chance to die naturally before the fit hits the shan.

Well when you come back to the 21st century and get up to date with the world politics you may comprehend where I'm coming from.

Is it me or Medvedev did not said that Russia was ready for 'anything'?

As far as I could see in all articles I found about it, what he said was what this article also says:

We're not afraid of anything (including) the prospect of a Cold War.

I could not find any place where he said that Russia was ready for anything.

It could be because I am just a Portuguese guy that learnt English just by hearing it spoken on the movies and TV shows, but it looks like that article is trying to make us think that Medvedev said something he did not said.

Originally posted by Scurvy
Well when you come back to the 21st century and get up to date with the world politics you may comprehend where I'm coming from.

Have no doubt, I truly know where you are coming from.

Your comment about "coming back to the 21st century" is ridiculous and naive by the admission of another russian sycophant here on this thread that the Soviet Union's leaders never really left the scene ...

How about not dooming all of us to repeat that brutal soviet history because some either forgot or never learned the history of the soviet union in the first place?

Originally posted by centurion1211
What is the largest country in the world? Russia.

Funny enough, although off-topic, some years ago I saw a poll where most Americans pointed to Russia or Canada when asked to point the United States on a map, and they did it because they thought the US was the bigger country in the world.

What did russia do with all the countries it "liberated" during World War II? Turned them into totalitaritarian puppet states (warsaw pact) based on the russian model. It took an additional 50 years for most of those countries to actually become liberated, and obviously russia still has dreams and plans to get them all back.

What did russia do when one of the warsaw pact countries decided to try and go their own way? Sent the russian army to those countries to crush any opposition. Hungary and Czechoslovakia are examples.

Aren't you confusing Russia with Soviet Union? Those things were made by the Soviet Union, not Russia.

What is russia still doing when a puppet state attempts to break away? Same as before - see all the articles about their Georgia invasion and occupation.

I saw the articles since the beginning, even those that said that Georgia started it all by sending rockets to South Ossetia.

Originally posted by centurion1211

Originally posted by Scurvy
Well when you come back to the 21st century and get up to date with the world politics you may comprehend where I'm coming from.

Have no doubt, I truly know where you are coming from.

Your comment about "coming back to the 21st century" is ridiculous and naive by the admission of another russian sycophant here on this thread that the Soviet Union's leaders never really left the scene ...

How about not dooming all of us to repeat that brutal soviet history because some either forgot or never learned the history of the soviet union in the first place?

Yes! Step aside terrorism, you are no longer the new communism, the old communism is back! Fear everything now! Tis time for 80s panic sex!

And the American leadership is any better? You have war criminals as political leaders and a large part of your population despises the administration. Last I heard Russians weren't having too many problems with Putin and largely supported his actions. Medvedev has some pretty good ratings as well.

Russia is not the Soviet Union. They are not trying to reclaim their past territories, they in fact denied S. Ossetia and Abkhazia from becoming part of Russia. They have issues with their former states because they have to protect themselves as well. If Russia started putting SAMs in Canada and vilifying the US to the rest of the world how would your country react?

They didn't say they were ready for anything.
They said they aren't afraid of the consequences to there actions in Georgia by the western country's and NATO because they feel it is justified.

Originally posted by centurion1211
What is the largest country in the world? Russia.

"Largest" can be a subjective measurement. China has the largest population. Iran has the largest percentage of fanatics in government. U.S. has the "largest" military in the world in terms of power and budget. Either way all three of these measurements are far more telling than the size of the territory.

Originally posted by centurion1211
How di it get to be the largest country in the world? By conquering all of its neigboring countries.

Pick up a history book and start at the chapter on "Moscovy Rus". Then go chapter by chapter (without skipping straight to 1900 as you may want to do) to learn the history of Russia. Back when Russia expanded Eastward, there were no nations in the Urals, or Siberia, or the far East. There were countless nomadic tribes ravaged by the Mongolian hordes.

Originally posted by centurion1211
What did russia do with all the countries it "liberated" during World War II?

Soviet Union (not Russia) kept them as souveniers for several decades before releasing them into the wild again - where they immediately fell into U.S.'s traps.

Originally posted by centurion1211
Turned them into totalitaritarian puppet states (warsaw pact) based on the russian model.

Communism and socialism isn't and never was a Russian model. If anything it is a German model created by Marx and Engels. But good try nonetheless.

Originally posted by centurion1211
and obviously russia still has dreams and plans to get them all back.

Too late - the U.S. caught them already. Now they are America's souveniers. Place them up high on the shelf, right next to Russia. Then arm them to the teeth and have them bark at the big neighbor. Bush must think he is playing around with toy soldiers or something. It's all very fun, untill you realize how sad it is.

Originally posted by centurion1211
What did russia do when one of the warsaw pact countries decided to try and go their own way? Sent the russian army to those countries to crush any opposition.

Wrong. Soviet army went in. With a good number of Poles and other nationalities.

Originally posted by centurion1211
What is russia still doing when a puppet state attempts to break away?

Raise the price of oil and gas of course. There is money to be made on the ignorant hordes. Capitalism is a beautiful thing.

Originally posted by centurion1211
Same as before - see all the articles about their Georgia invasion and occupation.

So Georgia is attempting to break away? Here I though it had been independent for 17 years.

Originally posted by centurion1211
But to the russophiles here, all the above is and was somehow a good thing.

To many Georgians Stalin today is considered a "good thing". I kid you not. They celebrate the man.

Maybe you should term it "Sovietphiles" instead of russophiles. Russophiles want to have the Czar back.

Originally posted by centurion1211
So, now which country is most likely to have world domination objectives?

The one that has started the most wars this century, klling the highest number of innocent civilians, ousting the largest number of sovereign regimes.

[edit on 26-8-2008 by maloy]

Originally posted by twisted_fate

The soviet union is back ...

All I can say to that is...great.

Finally we have a country who isn't going to get down on its knees for America.

As I would say, its about time we have somebody we can compete with since we are complacent.

The Soviet Union helped the U.S. pushed beyond what we expect in terms of military technology to the next level. Remember the Sputnik?

The unfortunate product of this renewed U.S.-Russia crisis is that a lot of uninformed, emotionally-charged, unfounded opinions will rear their ugly heads, as evidenced by the OP's posts in this thread.

Originally posted by StellarX


Isn't it strange how American leaders proclaimed victory in Vietnam, Korea, the 'cold war' and Iraq and how non of it turned out to be actual victories? Anyone starting to spot a trend yet or do you think the US is deploying F-22's and a a new generation of hunter submarines and strike aircraft to fight OBL?

This is a very good point to make. This is what happens when you have a government that generates and acts on policy founded on abstract principles as oppossed to fact. In our enlightened quest to spread democracy and capitalism around the world, we essentially destabilized a country, allowed its people to become extremely wealthy, and now we're complaining about the success of democracy and capitalism. How ironic.

It ain't revisionist history. The U.S. lost the Cold War.

Did anyone consider that the American Government is in cohoots with the Russian Government and that they are both working together to achieve the same goals, by creating yet another war scenario? Why? I dont know, maybe the government's know that a country is easier to rule by fear?, maybe they know that by plunging the world into recessions and the threat of war makes people turn to their governments for help?

It seems like these days as soon as some fiasco gets started, another one starts not too long afterwards. ~I mean come on, thinking logically about it, Why would America even get involved in this one? Would it not make more sense to go "hey we have enough on our plates here, lets let the Europeans sort this one out, if they run into trouble we'll offer our help" . No straight away they were out with their threats and with the help of the media, it all has blown it way out of proportion. Its like someone has plugged two playstation 3 controllers into the world and boy do they like their war games. Only thing is they get bored quickly " Hey I like how this new one is shaping up, Its about America and Europe taking on Russia, the usual 1$ to the winner right?"

Also I find it very hard to believe that the extremely wealthy people who are pulling the strings on either side are not the "best of friends" with each other and hang around in the same social circles? I doubt it! Something is definitely not right, I dont have the answers only lots and lots of questions!