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Originally posted by TaZCoN
Wow...this government is completely outta hand.
Originally posted by burdman30ott6
Based on what you are saying about how just a handfull of jackasses can taint an entire crowd of people, I have to wonder why it doesn't seem to be an accepted fact that it works both ways? Yes, there are some cops who are jerks, but that doesn't mean it is any fairer to use those jerks as grounds to call out the entirety of the police than it would be for someone to use the protesters who are acting like jerks & breaking the law to paint all protesters as dangerous lawbreakers.
Originally posted by justamomma
I bet ya I have made more ppl aware in my day to day life by utilizing my brain, face to face conversations, and internet tools than all of these public protests combined. Show me the proof that protests are educating and making ppl aware of your causes and I'll show you mine
You are deliberately using miss direction and putting words in my mouth by saying that i am saying something offensive to those who suffered, those millions of poor people that suffered in the concentration camps in ww2, (that i visited by the way, and cried at the sickening sight of)
Originally posted by chickenshoesI remember probably almost 10 years ago, I went to Peabody coal headquarters with a group to protest their attempting to take away water and land rights from the Dineh, a small group of Navajo subsistence farmers in northwest Arizona. They were having to drive 40 miles round trip just for a bucket of drinkable water because of Peabody.
They had already tried all the written and telephone means of contacting Peabody, and all attempts were ignored. When we finally physically went to the place and marched in front of it with signs, well, suddenly, lo and behold, Peabody was willing to speak to a Dineh representative who was there with us!!
I guess when a company doesn't want negative attention in front of their headquarters, they tend not to totally ignore the little guy anymore.
You tell me how handwritten letters, phone calls, and the internet helped in that case.
Originally posted by justamomma
That is excellent Job well done. I am sure you deserve a sticker for your efforts!
Let me clarify for you since you obviously have missed the point. Public protests that incite police action and/or abuse the freedoms and blessings that we have been given are moronic and a waste of time, ESPECIALLY when it is being done in the name of "freedom"!! Better?
You are referring to a case that is far more specific than the one cited in the op, and as you stated in the above was carried out only after all other available resources were tapped in to.
There are far more effective ways to go about getting the government out of our lives than stirring up trouble and/or abusing what we DO have.
I have stated elsewhere on this board that I am not ANTI protesting, but I am anti abusing that right.
If you have ought with a specific company and have used up every alternative method available to try and acquire what you deserve, then holding a protest such as the one you have mentioned seems reasonable.
What they are doing in the protest that we were discussing in this thread is not only not reasonable, but a waste of time, counterproductive, and SILLY!
I am 100% for these idiots being locked away for the sake of the public! I even like the idea of having their right to vote temporarily suspended, as another poster had mentioned.
Originally posted by chickenshoesPlease consider that the news outlets you are getting your information from may not be telling you the entire story. Anything goes, it seems, for the sake of sensationalism, and/or the sake of shaping the public's perception of events in their world.
Originally posted by Andrew E. Wiggin
ya know...posting filth like this only does one thing:
It numbs the tragedy of a real concentration camp
if you are so dull that you don't recognize what a couple million jews went through in the events leading up to WW2, fine, then there is no hope.