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reply posted on 18-3-2004 @ 08:36 AM by Byrd
Okay, guys... we're getting Incans and Toltecs and Aztecs confused with the Mayans. All of them practiced human and animal sacrifice, and all were polytheistic. There's reported cannibalism among the tribes as well.

The Aztecs lived in Central Mexico and were in power from 1300 until the mid 1500's. They were conquered and many were killed during the conquest, but they haven't "disappeared."
en.wikipedia.org...

The Mayan lived in Southern Mexico and Central America and had a 3,000 year old civilization... and they also did not "disappear" but blended in with other cultures after their empire -- weakened from wars and droughts (and lots of sacrifices) collapsed when it was conquered by the Spanish in the mid-1500's. en.wikipedia.org...

The Olmec lived in southern Mexico about the same time as the Mayas. Their most spectacular ruins include the huge stone heads that are often misidentified as "Mayan" or "Incan" They vanish about 200 BC en.wikipedia.org...

Incans, of course, lived in South America. This was a relatively short-lived civilization (from about 1200 until the Spaniards came in) en.wikipedia.org...

A good (referenced) brief intro to what the Mayans believed is here (you'd have a lot better case arguing that they believed what later became "Jedi-ism" rather than relating them to Christians):
www.angelfire.com...


[Edited on 18-3-2004 by Byrd]


reply posted on 18-3-2004 @ 01:12 PM by Tamahu
Originally posted by soothsayer
1. They worshipped the One God


The same goes for the Kemetians of whom the Mayans and Aztecs have some uncanny similiarities with.
I dare anyone to read Ra Un Nefer Amen's Metu Neter, then tell me with a straight face that they were "polytheistic".

2. They had known Jesus Christ... don't remember his exact name, have it on another thread... but he came from across the waters, bore the marks of crucifiction, cured the sick and raised the dead... and he also claimed to be the son of the High God.


Who told you this? A Mormon? lol!

Are you reffering to Quetzaquatl? I see him as representing the ancient KRST(Christ) concept and not the supposed historical figure of Yashua Ben Pandera.

3. The Mayans also had the Trinity.


Could you be more specific? The idea of a trinity is definitely older than the whole Father/Son/HolyGhost nonsense.

4. Practiced attonements, penance, baptisms.


This could be true. I'm pretty sure that the Kemetians practiced baptisms as well.

5. Worshipped the cross.


I highly doubt that. But they very well could have been aware of the meaning of the cross's symbolism.

6. Had tales of the Great Deluge and their own version of the Tower of Babel.


That makes sense, considering other parallels and the fact that all religions and peoples come from the same source.

7. Had concepts of heaven and hell.


A concept nothing like that of Roman Christianity.





Also remember that the United Snakes government is responsible for the slaughter of thousands of people in Guatemala, who were pretty much direct descendants of the Mayans.



reply posted on 22-3-2004 @ 06:48 PM by soothsayer
Sorry it's been so late in responding... sick as of late. But here ya go:

Originally posted by Tamahu
Originally posted by soothsayer
1. They worshipped the One God

The same goes for the Kemetians of whom the Mayans and Aztecs have some uncanny similiarities with.
2. They had known Jesus Christ... don't remember his exact name, have it on another thread...

Who told you this? A Mormon? lol!
Are you reffering to Quetzaquatl?
3. The Mayans also had the Trinity.

Could you be more specific? The idea of a trinity is definitely older than the whole Father/Son/HolyGhost nonsense.
4. Practiced attonements, penance, baptisms.

This could be true. I'm pretty sure that the Kemetians practiced baptisms as well.
5. Worshipped the cross.

I highly doubt that. But they very well could have been aware of the meaning of the cross's symbolism.


1. The name of their High/One God was 'Hunab-Ku', meaning "the one living and true god, the greatest of gods". He was represented as having Roman features.

2. No, it wasn't from a Mormon, and it wasn't Q. His name was Hun-Ytzamma, also called Itzamna and Zamna.

3. Their Trinity (or rather, the Yucatec Trinity), held the Father (Icona), Son (Bacab) and the Holy Spirit (Echuac). Granted, different cultural sect, but from the same source.

4. The practice of baptism was called renascur... meaning reborn.

5. The cross worship was two-fold. But the definition I am using here, because of the 'unholy' images the Mayans had, is this: Their Jesus, Itzamna, (also known as a Bacab), was scourged, crowned with thorns, hung on a cross (with ropes), died and was 'reborn' three days later. When Itzamna arrived, he already bore marks of a crucifiction.

For a better read on the Mayan Christ, go here:

Itzamna

Hope this helps.


reply posted on 8-1-2009 @ 10:14 AM by Anonymous ATS
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the mayans left this dimension metathoricaly speaking through a higher state of conciosness by vibrating due to energy intake on such a high level that they became non visual to the lower vibrating energy in the universe the prophesy says the went to shambala the place of enligtenment/peace and happines (heaven) as jesus and many religious figures showed us possible look up the celistine prophesy by james redfield the answers can be found here dont be mislead by the ignorance of others who try to justify your questions with logic sometimes ther is more to the truth than just logic go with your instincts and you will find truth.
the whole universe is built on vibrations investigate the physics of reality and matter you may be shocked at the result of your research


reply posted on 8-1-2009 @ 10:58 AM by Hanslune
reply to post by Alxandro



Similar to most people in the rest of the world, ie the Roman's, Arabs, Mongols, Zulus, etc. Humans have a long history of military conquest.

Conquering lands was considered normal in the past. Most of the nations of Europe are made up of large numbers of conquered tribes and clans, France being a good example. In the mid 18th century the majority of the people in what we now call France didn't speak French.

This can be seen in England also with the survivals of the Welsh, Scotts and Cornishmen against the Britons, Anglo-Saxons and Danes-with the Normans sweetening the pot.

Rather normal (conquest) historically. When the Europeans arrived the native american empires were based on conquest also.
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